Math Game HELP: Solve Hard Task with Invariants

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In summary, the conversation discusses the Collatz conjecture, which involves starting with a positive whole number and repeatedly dividing by 2 if it is even, or multiplying by 3 and adding or subtracting 1 if it is odd. The question is whether this process will always lead to the number 1. While the conjecture remains unsolved, it has been proven for certain variations, such as always choosing the multiple of 4 when given a choice between 3n+1 or 3n-1.
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A positive whole number was written on the board. In each step we rub out the number \(\displaystyle n\) (written on the board) and we write a new one. If number \(\displaystyle n\) is even, then we write number \(\displaystyle \frac{n}{2}\) on the board. If number \(\displaystyle n\) is odd, then we choose one of the numbers: \(\displaystyle 3n-1\) or \(\displaystyle 3n+1\) and we write it down on the board. Decide, if after finite amount of steps, we can obtain the number 1 one the board (no matter which number was written on the board at the beginning).

Please help. I can't figure it out. I know that it can be connected to invariants.
 
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This is the Collatz conjecture. It is currently unsolved.

Yes, I found it but there is one extra variation. You can choose either \(\displaystyle 3n+1\) or \(\displaystyle 3n-1\). Doesn't it have an influence on the result?
 
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If at some stage of the game you have an odd number $n$ then one of the numbers $3n\pm1$ will be a multiple of $4$. Choose that one. Then the next two steps will take you to the number $\dfrac{3n\pm1}4$, which is strictly smaller than $n$. This process of making numbers strictly smaller will inevitably bring you down to $1$ eventually.
 

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