Math used in this equation rearrangement?

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In summary, the conversation is discussing a problem involving the use of water to raise the temperature of a car from -25°C to 0°C. The equation being used is mwcwΔTw + mwLf,w = mcccΔTc, which has been rearranged to solve for the mass of water, mw. The inclusion of latent heat of fusion is due to the water transitioning from liquid to solid as it freezes on the car. However, there may be an error in the algebra of the equation and further clarification is needed.
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MarchON
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I'm trying to determine how much water it takes to raise a car's temperature from -25°C to 0°C. The water is at 10°C.

What I apparently need to have set up is:

-ΔUint,water = ΔUint,car

-(mwcwΔTw) - mwLf,w = mcccΔTc

The resultant rearranged equation looking for mass of water gives this:

mw = -(mcccΔTc)/cwΔTw - mwLf,w

I don't understand how this was done. Also, why are you subtracting Latent heat of fusion x Mass from mwcwΔTw?
 
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Looks like there's a mistake in the algebra, then. What do you think that eqn should be?

Q for you: why does latent heat of fusion enter into the picture at all?
 
  • #3
MarchON said:
The resultant rearranged equation looking for mass of water gives this:

mw = -(mcccΔTc)/cwΔTw - mwLf,w

Says who?

(Hint: are the units consistent?)
 
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Latent heat of fusion is in the picture because the water is going from a liquid to a solid. It freezes when it hits the car, then at a certain point it doesn't because the car warms up to 0 degrees. And I don't know what's up with the equation, but that's what my professor's solution says. Based on my math, I got something that makes no sense:

0= mcarccarΔTcar/CwΔTw + Lf
 
  • #5
The left side should be mw. You need a pair of brackets on the right side, and then it should look right.
 
  • #6
I don't understand how. Is there any way (and I know this is no easy task) to break down the algebra step by step for me?
Also, I made a mistake with the resultant equation in my first post. It's actually mw = -(mcccΔTc)/cwΔTw - Lf,w (no - mwLf,w)

I realize that ends up being the same thing that you said and there is no error (but he kept the negatives in, whereas we canceled them out), but I still don't understand how.
 
  • #7
You started with this: -mwcwΔTw - mwLf,w = mcccΔTc
Taking out a common factor -mw we have
-mw(cwΔTw +Lf,w)= mcccΔTc

Now divide both sides by (cwΔTw +Lf,w)
and we are left with
-mw = mcccΔTc / (cwΔTw +Lf,w)

Multiplying both sides by -1 so that we end up with mw by itself,
mw = -mcccΔTc / (cwΔTw +Lf,w)

The brackets I said you needed are those in the denominator; the ones you added in the numerator make no difference.
 

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