Mathematical question i physics

In summary, the conversation discusses the functions f1 and f2 being functions of u, where u=z-ct. The formula for the curl of E is given and it is shown that it can be simplified using the chain rule. The goal is to find the value of B by integrating the left side of the equation with respect to t. However, since f1 and f2 are functions of u, the result cannot be obtained easily. The conversation also mentions the need to show that B and E are perpendicular, but it is not clear how to achieve this result.
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nhrock3
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[TEX]\vec{E}=f_1(z-ct)\hat{x}+f_2(z-ct)\hat{y}+0\hat{z}[/TEX][TEX]
f_1(u)[/TEX] and [TEX]f_2(u)[/TEX] are functions of "u"
u=z-ct
i have the formula
[TEX]\nabla \times \vec{E}=-\frac{db}{dt } [/TEX]
[TEX]\nabla\times\vec{E}=|\begin{array}{ccc}
\hat{x} & \hat{y} & \hat{z}\\
\frac{{d}}{dx} & {\frac{{d}}{dy}} & \frac{{d}}{dz}|=\\
f_{1}(z-ct) & f_{2}(z-ct) & 0\end{array}\hat{-x}\frac{{df_{2}}}{dz}-\hat{y}\frac{{df_{1}}}{dz}+\hat{z0}=-\frac{{d\overrightarrow{B}}}{dt}[/TEX]

i want to find B
so i need to integrate the left side by t
in order to get B
but f_1 f_2 are function of u
how to make a result
?


and then i need to show that [tex]B\bullet E=0[/tex]
i can't get 0
 
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hi nhrock3! :smile:

(write "tex" not "TEX"; and write "itex" rather than "tex", and it won't keep starting a new line :wink:)
nhrock3 said:
[tex]\vec{E}=f_1(z-ct)\hat{x}+f_2(z-ct)\hat{y}+0\hat{z}[/tex]
[itex]f_1(u)[/itex] and [itex]f_2(u)[/itex] are functions of "u"
u=z-ct
i have the formula
[tex]\nabla \times \vec{E}=-\frac{db}{dt } [/tex]
[tex]\nabla\times\vec{E}=|\begin{array}{ccc}
\hat{x} & \hat{y} & \hat{z}\\
\frac{{d}}{dx} & {\frac{{d}}{dy}} & \frac{{d}}{dz}|=\\
f_{1}(z-ct) & f_{2}(z-ct) & 0\end{array}\hat{-x}\frac{{df_{2}}}{dz}-\hat{y}\frac{{df_{1}}}{dz}+\hat{z0}=-\frac{{d\overrightarrow{B}}}{dt}[/tex]

i want to find B
so i need to integrate the left side by t
in order to get B
but f_1 f_2 are function of u
how to make a result
?


and then i need to show that [tex]B\bullet E=0[/tex]
i can't get 0

you notation is very confused :redface:

perhaps because you are? :wink:

f1 is a function of only one variable, and has only one derivative, call it f1' …

(z - ct) is a function of two variables, and has two derivatives …

applying the chain rule:

∂f1(z - ct)/∂z = f1'(z - ct); ∂f1(z - ct)/∂t = -cf1'(z - ct) …​

carry on from there :smile:
 

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