Max/Min Triangle Area in Calc BC: Find Dimensions of Isosceles Triangle

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In summary, the conversation involved a request for help with a homework question from the maximums and minimums section in a Calculus BC class. The question was about finding the dimensions of an isosceles triangle with the least area that can be circumscribed about a circle with radius R. The answers provided were: height = 3R, base = 2R(3)^(1/2), and sides = 2R(3)^(1/2). The person also mentioned that their work did not look good, and it would be helpful to see their attempted solution.
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This is in my Calc BC class, a homework question from the maximums and minimums section. Can someone solve it please? I know the answers but my work doesn't look too good. Thanks a lot.


Find the dimensions of the isosceles triangle of least area that can be cirumscribed about a circle of radius R.

the answers are:
height= 3R
base=2R(3)^(1/2)
sides=2R(3)^(1/2)
 
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Was there a reason for posting this under differential equations? It would be better in the Homework section. Oh- and while your work may not "look too good", it would help if you showed what work you did.
 
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Sure, I can help you solve this problem. First, let's draw a diagram to visualize the problem.

We have a circle with radius R, and we want to inscribe an isosceles triangle around it. Let's label the center of the circle as point O, and the points where the triangle touches the circle as A, B, and C. Since the triangle is isosceles, we know that the sides AB and AC are equal, and the angle at the top of the triangle (angle BAC) is also equal to the angles at the base (angle ABC and angle ACB).

Next, let's label the height of the triangle as h, and the base as b. We can use the Pythagorean theorem to find the length of the sides AB and AC. Since the radius of the circle is R, we know that the distance from point O to either point A, B, or C is also R. Therefore, we can write the following equation:

(R)^2 + (h)^2 = (AB)^2

We also know that the distance from point A to point B is equal to the distance from point A to point C (since the triangle is isosceles). So we can write another equation:

(b/2)^2 + (h)^2 = (AC)^2

Now, we can use the formula for the area of a triangle (A = 1/2 * base * height) to find the area of this triangle. Since we want to minimize the area, we can set up a function for the area in terms of h and b, and then use differentiation to find the critical points.

A(h,b) = 1/2 * b * h

Next, we can substitute the values for AB and AC into our function:

A(h,b) = 1/2 * (2R(3)^(1/2)) * h

Now, we can substitute the value for h from our first equation into our function:

A(b) = 1/2 * (2R(3)^(1/2)) * sqrt((AB)^2 - (R)^2)

We can simplify this function to:

A(b) = R(3)^(1/2) * sqrt(b^2 - 4R^2)

Finally, we can use differentiation to find the critical points of this function:

A'(b) = R(3)^(
 
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Sure, I would be happy to help solve this problem for you. First, let's start by drawing a diagram to better understand the situation. We have a circle with a radius of R, and we want to inscribe an isosceles triangle around it with the least possible area.

Since we know that an isosceles triangle has two equal sides, we can label the base as x and the two equal sides as y. The height of the triangle can be found using the Pythagorean theorem, which states that the square of the hypotenuse (in this case, the radius of the circle) is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides.

So, we have:
(R)^2 = (x/2)^2 + y^2

We can simplify this to:
4R^2 = x^2 + 4y^2

Next, we need to find the area of the triangle. The formula for the area of a triangle is 1/2 * base * height. In this case, the base is x and the height is y, so the area can be written as:
A = 1/2 * x * y

We can substitute the value of y from our previous equation into this formula, giving us:
A = 1/2 * x * √(4R^2 - x^2)

Now, we can use calculus to find the minimum value of this function. We will take the derivative of A with respect to x, set it equal to 0, and solve for x.

dA/dx = 1/2 * (√(4R^2 - x^2) - x * (4R^2 - x^2)^(-1/2) * (-2x))

Setting this equal to 0 and solving for x gives us:
x = √(4R^2 - x^2)

Squaring both sides and simplifying, we get:
x^2 = 4R^2 - x^2

Solving for x gives us:
x = 2R√3

Now, we can plug this value back into our equation for y to find the height of the triangle:
(R)^2 = (x/2)^2 + y^2
(R)^2 = (2R√3/2)^
 

FAQ: Max/Min Triangle Area in Calc BC: Find Dimensions of Isosceles Triangle

How do you find the maximum/minimum area of an isosceles triangle?

To find the maximum/minimum area of an isosceles triangle, you can use the formula A = (1/2)bh, where A is the area, b is the base length, and h is the height. Set up the formula with variables for both the base and height, and then use calculus techniques to find the derivative of the formula. Set the derivative equal to zero to find the critical points, and then use the second derivative test to determine whether each point is a maximum, minimum, or neither. The maximum/minimum area will correspond to the maximum/minimum value of the function.

Can you use any other methods to find the maximum/minimum area of an isosceles triangle?

Yes, you can also use the Pythagorean Theorem and the fact that the sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees to set up a system of equations and solve for the base and height of the triangle. This will give you the dimensions of the triangle that will result in the maximum/minimum area. However, this method is more time-consuming and less efficient compared to using calculus techniques.

How can you tell if the maximum/minimum area of an isosceles triangle is a maximum or a minimum?

You can determine whether the critical points found using the derivative test correspond to a maximum or minimum by using the second derivative test. If the second derivative is positive at the critical point, then it is a minimum. If the second derivative is negative, then it is a maximum. If the second derivative is equal to zero, then the test is inconclusive.

Is there a way to find the maximum/minimum area without using calculus?

Yes, you can use the Pythagorean Theorem and the fact that the sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees to set up a system of equations and solve for the base and height of the triangle. However, this method is more time-consuming and less efficient compared to using calculus techniques.

Can the maximum/minimum area of an isosceles triangle be found using only one variable?

No, the maximum/minimum area cannot be found using only one variable. This is because the area of an isosceles triangle depends on both the base and height, so both variables are needed to find the maximum/minimum area.

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