Max Speed Banked Curve: Calculating Friction Coefficients for Trajectory

In summary, the conversation discusses the trajectory of a car going at maximum speed on a banked curve with a given coefficient of kinetic friction. The question is whether the coefficient of kinetic friction should be used instead of the old coefficient of static friction when calculating the maximum velocity. The conversation also mentions setting the path towards the wall and crashing, but it is clarified that the point of the banked curve and friction is for the car to stay on the road without crashing. It is suggested that if the wheels slip, it would be conservative to use kinetic friction to determine maximum velocity. The conversation also mentions that the wheels of a car rotate in a way that the surface of the tire matches the road speed of the vehicle. Lastly, it is mentioned that
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we werre asked to draw the trajectory of the car going at maximum speed on a banked curve given the coefficient of kinetic friction. Since the friction equations are the same and I already calculated the maximum velocity allowed using the coefficient for static friction, should I just plug in this coefficient of kinetic friction in place of the old coefficient of static friction?

lastly, would it be right to set the path going toward the wall, and crasing like I imagine it to be?
 
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Why would the car crash? The point of the banked curve and friction is that the car stays on the road without crashing. Kinetic friction is less than static friction, so it would be conservative use kinetic friction to determine maximum velocity if the wheels slipped. The wheels of a car rotate such that the tangential velocity of the surface of the tire matches the road speed of the vehicle. So the actual allowable maximum velocity would occur with static friction.

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so, can anyone suggest what would happen if the car was traveling at the maximum speed? would it go around the outside of the curve, almost touching the wall from beginning to end?
 
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Actually, the question asks the motion of the car if it exceeds the maximum speed for the curve given a certain coefficient of sliding friction. Should it crash in this case?
 
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If the car completely loses traction, it will travel tangent to the curve and hit the wall, which is occasionally what happens in autoraces like NASCAR and Indy 500.
 

FAQ: Max Speed Banked Curve: Calculating Friction Coefficients for Trajectory

What is a quick banked curve?

A quick banked curve is a type of curved track that is designed to allow vehicles, such as cars or trains, to safely travel at high speeds without slipping or skidding.

Why is banking necessary for a quick banked curve?

Banking, or tilting the curve to one side, helps to counteract the centrifugal force that is generated when a vehicle travels around a curved track at high speeds. This allows the vehicle to maintain its speed and stay on the track without slipping.

What factors affect the banking angle of a quick banked curve?

The banking angle of a quick banked curve is affected by the speed of the vehicle, the radius of the curve, and the coefficient of friction between the track and the vehicle's tires. The higher the speed or smaller the radius, the steeper the banking angle needs to be.

How does a quick banked curve differ from a regular curve?

A quick banked curve is specifically designed for high-speed travel and has a steeper banking angle compared to a regular curve. This allows vehicles to maintain their speed and stay on the track without slipping or skidding.

What are the advantages of using a quick banked curve?

The main advantage of using a quick banked curve is that it allows vehicles to safely travel at high speeds without slipping or skidding. This can reduce travel time and increase efficiency, especially for modes of transportation such as trains or roller coasters.

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