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Dmitry67
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Can anyone provide it?
I just examined wiki article just for fun, it is a mess of different concepts (because, as I understand, there was an attempt to make it interpretation-neutral)
So, can anyone provide a definition which is MWI-compatible? For example:
in MWI any 'particle' behavior is a result of a measurement and decoherence, on a fundamental level thee is a Universe Wavefunction (UW) (which is a wave). So the very beginning of wiki article 'In physics, a virtual particle is a particle that' does not make any sense.
In MWI measurement is a mapping of UW into some basic, chosen arbitrary (to some extent). So, as I understand it, in Feynman diagrams the distinction of the ‘incoming and outgoing’ particles and virtual ones is based on a measurement. Looks like wiki admits this weakness in one place (bold is mine), using the word detected/observed in all explanations:
Even the mathematical attempt fails:
So my question is,
What are virtual particles in MWI?
What is an observation-free definition?
Are they a part of UW or not? (UW and its evolution is the only thing which exists)
I just examined wiki article just for fun, it is a mess of different concepts (because, as I understand, there was an attempt to make it interpretation-neutral)
So, can anyone provide a definition which is MWI-compatible? For example:
in MWI any 'particle' behavior is a result of a measurement and decoherence, on a fundamental level thee is a Universe Wavefunction (UW) (which is a wave). So the very beginning of wiki article 'In physics, a virtual particle is a particle that' does not make any sense.
In MWI measurement is a mapping of UW into some basic, chosen arbitrary (to some extent). So, as I understand it, in Feynman diagrams the distinction of the ‘incoming and outgoing’ particles and virtual ones is based on a measurement. Looks like wiki admits this weakness in one place (bold is mine), using the word detected/observed in all explanations:
As such, virtual particles are also excitations of the underlying fields, but are detectable only as forces but not particles. They are "temporary" in the sense that they appear in calculations, but are not detected as single particles.
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they never appear as the observable inputs and outputs of the physical process being modeled
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Furthermore, in a vacuum, a photon experiences no passage of (proper) time between emission and absorption. This statement illustrates the difficulty of trying to distinguish between "real" and "virtual" particles as mathematically they are the same objects and it is only our definition of "reality" which is weak here. In practice, a clear distinction can be made: real photons are detected as individual particles in particle detectors, whereas virtual photons are not directly detected; only their average or side-effects may be noticed, in the form of forces or (in modern language) interactions between particles.
Even the mathematical attempt fails:
Because it implicitly assumed the possibility of measuring E and p when a ‘particle’ is detectedA virtual particle is one that does not precisely obey the m2c4 = E2 − p2c2 [2] relationship for a short time
So my question is,
What are virtual particles in MWI?
What is an observation-free definition?
Are they a part of UW or not? (UW and its evolution is the only thing which exists)