Mechanical Space Propulsion. Why isn't this possible?

In summary, this technology is claimed to be able to propel spacecraft or other objects without the need for any external forces. However, this has been extensively debunked and is not supported by any credible evidence.
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kerbtrek
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So I've been told this is impossible before, and while I understand some of the reasoning as to why, I still can't wrap my head around how this wouldn't work, or rather, what it would do instead of working.

So here's an image of what it looks like:

Its function is this:

Step 1: 'Forward' sphere rotates, flipping the whole panel and other sphere over.
Step 2: Other sphere performs the same action.
Result: Object changes position in space along a specific path.

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Now there may be other things needed, such as mass shifting from one sphere to the other (i.e. a pumped liquid) so that one has more mass than the other and the sphere doesn't spin like a tire stuck in the mud. But is it really completely impossible?

While a mechanism like this would need to move very rapidly to be practical for space travel, it does seem like it could be much more practical in say, re positioning itself in orbit, without fuel, run solely on electricity without any need for gases to exhaust.
 
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What it would do instead of accelerating (which is what you want from propulsion) is: move along with the center of mass following a straight trajectory at a constant velocity. There are no external forces, so Newton rules !
 
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I think you may be thinking in terms of the " spacecraft " sitting on a table rather than free-floating. If you start one of the spheres rotating, you will be adding angular momentum and as such the whole system will rotate in the opposite direction around its center of mass (which is in the middle of the part). This method is loosely similar to how satellite gyroscopes control orientation of the craft in orbit, but a gyroscope cannot impart net linear acceleration of the craft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_moment_gyroscope
 
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But if the center of mass is changed to only one sphere at a time (not the center of length) wouldn't that essentially make the rest of the apparatus rotate around the sphere? This is why I spoke of pumping a fluid between the spheres.
 
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kerbtrek said:
But if the center of mass is changed to only one sphere at a time (not the center of length) wouldn't that essentially make the rest of the apparatus rotate around the sphere? This is why I spoke of pumping a fluid between the spheres.
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FAQ: Mechanical Space Propulsion. Why isn't this possible?

What is mechanical space propulsion?

Mechanical space propulsion refers to the use of physical forces and mechanisms to generate thrust and propel a spacecraft through space. This can include mechanisms such as rockets, ion thrusters, and solar sails.

How does mechanical space propulsion work?

The specific mechanisms and principles of mechanical space propulsion vary depending on the type of propulsion being used. However, in general, mechanical space propulsion works by expelling some kind of propellant at high speeds in one direction, which creates an equal and opposite force that propels the spacecraft in the opposite direction.

Why isn't mechanical space propulsion possible?

Mechanical space propulsion is possible and has been used successfully in space missions. However, some people may question its feasibility due to the vast distances and harsh conditions of space, as well as the limitations of our current technology.

What are the limitations of mechanical space propulsion?

The main limitations of mechanical space propulsion are the amount of propellant that can be carried on a spacecraft, the speed at which the propellant can be expelled, and the efficiency of the propulsion system. These factors can limit the maximum achievable speed and distance of a spacecraft.

Are there any alternative methods of space propulsion?

Yes, there are alternative methods of space propulsion that are being researched and developed, such as nuclear propulsion, antimatter propulsion, and even theoretical concepts like warp drive. These methods aim to overcome some of the limitations of mechanical space propulsion and potentially enable faster and more efficient space travel.

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