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I'm sorry but you're really not making any sense here. I've explained logically and in detail why you are wrong, and you haven't even bothered to respond.
"Then it's a good thing I didn't say that. I said the cases where a memory is reliably stored can't be random fluctuations. Random fluctuations can't create stable correlations, which is what is required for memory storage."
Ok... As I said, and as you agreed, the case in which entropy decreases is no more or less a random fluctation than the case in which it increases, so this is irrelevant.
"Yes, it does. I've already explained why, repeatedly."
You haven't at all. I have explained (and sourced) why entropy within the memory circuit must decrease, and why entropy within the environment may increase or decrease without influencing the success of this memory storage. You're only recourse is to a poorly defined concept of "random fluctuations", without any reference to what is fluctuating, why it would influence memory storage or why it would differ between realisations of the stochastic system which happen to decrease or increase entropy. After addressing your misunderstanding of the microscopic and macroscopic basis of entropy and fluctuations, you just repeated the same point which had already been refuted.
"Then it's a good thing I didn't say that. I said the cases where a memory is reliably stored can't be random fluctuations. Random fluctuations can't create stable correlations, which is what is required for memory storage."
Ok... As I said, and as you agreed, the case in which entropy decreases is no more or less a random fluctation than the case in which it increases, so this is irrelevant.
"Yes, it does. I've already explained why, repeatedly."
You haven't at all. I have explained (and sourced) why entropy within the memory circuit must decrease, and why entropy within the environment may increase or decrease without influencing the success of this memory storage. You're only recourse is to a poorly defined concept of "random fluctuations", without any reference to what is fluctuating, why it would influence memory storage or why it would differ between realisations of the stochastic system which happen to decrease or increase entropy. After addressing your misunderstanding of the microscopic and macroscopic basis of entropy and fluctuations, you just repeated the same point which had already been refuted.
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