Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays .

In summary: It's a three day celebration of everything that's wrong with Christmas. It's a day to mock the commercialism and the cheerfulness of Christmas. It's a day where people can express their dislike of the holiday without fear of retribution from family, friends, or society at large. It's a day where you can be whoever you want, and no one will judge you. It's called Christmas.
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I don't think anyone actually objects but it would just sound pretty idiotic of me to say Merry Christmas to my Chinese friends. If all of your friends come from a Christian culture then go ahead and say Merry Christmas.

leroyjenkens said:
Actually, I don't know. Isn't Easter one of those holidays that doesn't have a fixed day?
But is there a connection I'm missing?

I didn't know they did move the date. Why did they have to move it? And how does that relate to his real day of birth?

It's a coincidence that Mark Twain predicted when he'd die.
Coincidences happen.

I went to a catholic school and our priest was the one who told us that Jesus was born in the summer and that Christmas was chosen to compete with pagan rituals.

It doesn't say anywhere in the bible that Christians have to ignore the reasons behind the historic spread of Christianity...

Surely the least interesting and least contentious thing about any religion should be the days of the year it celebrates its festivals on...
 
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RabbitWho said:
I went to a catholic school and our priest was the one who told us that Jesus was born in the summer and that Christmas was chosen to compete with pagan rituals.

I still go to Catholic School and one of my former priests told us all of those things. He believed that a religion's history, even the bad parts, were important to learning the true meaning behind the religion.
I wish my priest and teachers now were more like him. I often tell all of my friends all of these things, but I do try to keep it to a minimum. One can easily get reprimanded in my school for, what many of my teachers believe is, belittling Catholicism.
 
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Jow said:
I still go to Catholic School and one of my former priests told us all of those things. He believed that a religion's history, even the bad parts, were important to learning the true meaning behind the religion.
I wish my priest and teachers now were more like him. I often tell all of my friends all of these things, but I do try to keep it to a minimum. One can easily get reprimanded in my school for, what many of my teachers believe is, belittling Catholicism.


That's hard :( They'll lose people with that attitude, they can't hope that when their students go out into the real world and are affronted with this they're just going to block their ears and say "la la la la". They should talk about it openly.

Also one of the nice things about religion is its connection with other subjects like history and the development of philosophy and art, okay, the art part isn't going to create any controversy... but it's a pity to just ignore things like the church rejecting Descartes and then much later appropriating his ideas, that's fascinating!
 
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RabbitWho said:
I don't think anyone actually objects but it would just sound pretty idiotic of me to say Merry Christmas to my Chinese friends.
Me too. I'd be more likely to say 聖誕快樂.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Me too. I'd be more likely to say 聖誕快樂.


Heh heh, good point, I'd be more likely to say Bones Festes!
 
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Unless I am certain of a person's beliefs, customs etc. I greet them with the usual pleasantries. I won't even use "Happy Holidays" I simply say "Hello"/"Goodbye". If someone says "Merry Christmas" to me, I will say "Merry Christmas" back. It is the same if they say "Happy Hanukkah".
 
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I know someone who wishes everyone "happy solstice" and responds to everyone sneezing with "zeus strike the sickness from you."
 

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