MHBIntegral Calculation Help: \int_4^1\int_1^2

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the correct antiderivative for the iterated integral \int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx. There was a mistake in the original antiderivative found, but it was corrected by realizing that \frac{1}{2x} and \frac{ln(2x)}{2} are the same. The conversation also discusses the importance of the constant of integration and how it affects the final answer. The correct answer for the antiderivative is \frac{\ln(x)}{2} + c.
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Hello MHB,

\(\displaystyle \int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx\)
My progress:
\(\displaystyle \int_1^4[x\ln(y)+\frac{y^2}{2x}]_1^2\)
\(\displaystyle \int_1^4 x\ln(2)+\frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{2x}dx\)
\(\displaystyle [\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4\)
What I am doing wrong?

Regards,
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Hello MHB,

\(\displaystyle \int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx\)
My progress:
\(\displaystyle \int_1^4[x\ln(y)+\frac{y^2}{2x}]_1^2\)
\(\displaystyle \int_1^4 x\ln(2)+\frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{2x}dx\)
\(\displaystyle [\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4\)
What I am doing wrong?

Regards,

Edit: Can't change subject, I did misspelled 'Iterated integral'

How did you integrate \(\displaystyle \frac {1}{2x}\) ?
 
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Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
How did you integrate \(\displaystyle \frac {1}{2x}\) ?
Typo should be \(\displaystyle \frac{ln(2x)}{2}\)

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Ohh I see... I antiderivated it wrong... Should be \(\displaystyle \frac{ln(x)}{2}\)
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Typo should be \(\displaystyle \frac{ln(2x)}{2}\)

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Ohh I see... I antiderivated it wrong... Should be \(\displaystyle \frac{ln(x)}{2}\)

They are actually the same , can you see why ?
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
\(\displaystyle [\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4\)

Also you should have got \(\displaystyle 2\ln(x) \) not \(\displaystyle 2\ln (2) \)
 
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Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
They are actually the same , can you see why ?
I think I need tea.. Yeah I see they are same
\(\displaystyle \frac{ln(2x)}{2}\) if we derivate we get
\(\displaystyle \frac{\frac{2}{2x}}{2}<=>\frac{1}{2x}\)
\(\displaystyle \frac{ln(x)}{2}\) if we derivate we get \(\displaystyle \frac{\frac{1}{x}}{2} <=> \frac{1}{2x}\)
 
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Re: iterated integral

Do I got more misstake that I can't see cause I get the answer and facit says \(\displaystyle \frac{21}{2}\ln(2)\)
 
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Re: iterated integral

This is related to the constant of integration

\(\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (2x) }{2} + c_1 = \frac { \ln (2) +\ln (x) }{2} + c_1\)

Now assume that \(\displaystyle c= \frac { \ln (2) }{2} + c_1\)

Hence

\(\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (x) }{2} + c\)
 
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Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
This is related to the constant of integration

\(\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (2x) }{2} + c_1 = \frac { \ln (2) +\ln (x) }{2} + c_1\)

Now assume that \(\displaystyle c= \frac { \ln (2) }{2} + c_1\)

Hence

\(\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (x) }{2} + c\)
Thanks!But have I antiderivated correct:)?
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Do I got more misstake that I can't see cause I get the answer and facit says \(\displaystyle \frac{21}{2}\ln(2)\)

Try evaluating it by hand , it should be the same .
 

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