Minimum time between two orthogonal states

In summary, the problem involves finding the minimum non-zero value of T2-T1 for a particle prepared in a state with two energy eigenstates, and given that the state at time t=0 is orthogonal to the states at times T1 and T2. Using the wave function evolution equation and the orthonormality of the two states, we can derive the equation (1) and (2) which lead to the final answer of T2-T1 = 2πħ/|E2-E1|.
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Homework Statement
Let φ1 and φ2 denote, the normalized eigenstates of a particle with energy eigenvalues E1 and E2 respectively. At time t = 0, the particle is prepared in a state:

ψ(x,t=0) = (1/√2)φ1+(1/√2)φ2

It is observed that both ψ(x,T1) and ψ(x,T2) orthogonal to ψ(x,0) . The minimum non-zero
value of T 2 - T 1 is :

(a)πħ/(|E1-E2|)
(b)2πħ/(|E1-E2|)
(c) πħ/(2|E1-E2|)
(d) 4πħ/(|E1-E2|)
Relevant Equations
ψ(x,t) = ψ(x,0)*exp(-iEt/ħ)
and E = |c1|^2(E1) +|c2|^2(E2)
E = (1/√2)^2(E1) + (1/√2)^2(E2) = (E1+E2)/2

Let ψ(x,t=0) = ψ0
So, ψ1 = ψ0*exp(-i*E*T1/ħ)
and, ψ2 = ψ0*exp(-i*E*T2/ħ)

Given, <ψ1|ψ0> = <ψ2|ψ0> = 0
So,
<ψ0*exp(-i*E*T1/ħ)|ψ0> = 0
=> exp(i*E*T1/ħ)<ψ0|ψ0> = 0
=> exp(i*E*T1/ħ) = 0

Similarly,
exp(i*E*T2/ħ) = 0

So, exp(i*E*T1/ħ) = exp(i*E*T2/ħ)
=> E*T2/ħ = E*T1/ħ + 2π
=> T2-T1 = 2ħπ/E = 4ħπ/(E1+E2)

The minimum non zero value.
But this doesn't match any of the options. What did I do wrong here?

Correct answer is supposed to be option B.
 
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Kaguro said:
Homework Statement:: Let φ1 and φ2 denote, the normalized eigenstates of a particle with energy eigenvalues E1 and E2 respectively. At time t = 0, the particle is prepared in a state:

ψ(x,t=0) = (1/√2)φ1+(1/√2)φ2

It is observed that both ψ(x,T1) and ψ(x,T2) orthogonal to ψ(x,0) . The minimum non-zero
value of T 2 - T 1 is :

(a)πħ/(|E1-E2|)
(b)2πħ/(|E1-E2|)
(c) πħ/(2|E1-E2|)
(d) 4πħ/(|E1-E2|)
Relevant Equations:: ψ(x,t) = ψ(x,0)*exp(-iEt/ħ)
and E = |c1|^2(E1) +|c2|^2(E2)

E = (1/√2)^2(E1) + (1/√2)^2(E2) = (E1+E2)/2

This is not right. The wave function evolves as:
$$\Psi(x, t) = \frac 1 {\sqrt{2}}(\phi_1(x) e^{-iE_1t} + \phi_2(x) e^{-iE_2t})$$
 
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Okay, my bad..

So this time, I get:
<##\frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \phi_1 e^{-iE_1T_1/\hbar} + \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \phi_2 e^{-iE_2T_1/\hbar} | \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \phi_1 + \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \phi_2##> = 0
since the ## \phi_1 \text{ and } \phi_2 ## are orthonormal, so:
##\frac{1}{2} e^{iE_1 T_1/ \hbar} + \frac{1}{2} e^{iE_2 T_1/ \hbar} = 0~~~~~(1)##
and similarly for state ##\psi(x,T_2)## we get:
##\frac{1}{2} e^{iE_1 T_2/ \hbar} + \frac{1}{2} e^{iE_2 T_2/ \hbar}= 0~~~~~(2)##

From (1)
##e^{i E_1 T_1 / \hbar}=-e^{i E_2 T_1 / \hbar}##
##\Rightarrow e^{i T_1(E_2-E_1)}=-1##
similarly
##\Rightarrow e^{i T_2(E_2-E_1)}=-1##
Equate them.
##\Rightarrow e^{i T_1(E_2-E_1)}=e^{i T_2(E_2-E_1)}##

##\Rightarrow \frac{iT_2(E_2-E_1)}{\hbar} = \frac{iT_1(E_2-E_1)}{\hbar}+i2 \pi##
and finally answer is:
##T_2 - T_1 = \frac{2 \pi \hbar}{|E_2 - E_1|}##

Thanks PeroK for your help!
You keep helping me.:smile::smile:
 
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