Modeling a measurement as unitary

In summary, the article discusses the standard way to model a measurement of a system's state as a unitary evolution, but points out that there is a problem with the evolution: it can't be unitary.
  • #36
PeterDonis said:
By "moving wave packets" I assume you mean something like coherent states?

I mean a wave packet like ##\psi(x) = \exp(i k x - x^2/2\sigma^2)##.
 
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  • #37
Although I think it is only collapse that is necessarily non-unitary, and since measurement and collapse can be used as state preparation, I don't think MWI has to solve the problem of state preparation separately from the non-unitarity of collapse. But since we discussed time-dependent Hamiltonians above, here are some references about the extent to which unitary operations with time-dependent Hamiltonians enable one to move between any two states.
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0106128
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0108114
 
  • #38
atyy said:
Although I think it is only collapse that is necessarily non-unitary, and since measurement and collapse can be used as state preparation, I don't think MWI has to solve the problem of state preparation separately from the non-unitarity of collapse. But since we discussed time-dependent Hamiltonians above, here are some references about the extent to which unitary operations with time-dependent Hamiltonians enable one to move between any two states.
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0106128
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0108114

I don't understand the comments about MWI. I thought the whole point of MWI was to get rid of collapse, so there is nothing non-unitary going on.
 
  • #39
stevendaryl said:
I don't understand the comments about MWI. I thought the whole point of MWI was to get rid of collapse, so there is nothing non-unitary going on.

Yes. What I'm saying is that if MWI is able to convincingly get rid of collapse, then it doesn't have to solve state preparation as a separate problem.

The other point I was making is that although collapse can prepare a state, state preparation within Copenhagen is not necessarily non-unitary, but collapse is necessarily non-unitary.
 

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