Mole Concept: 1.008g H & 12g C = Avogadro's # Atoms

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The discussion centers on the mole concept, clarifying that 1.008 grams of hydrogen and 12 grams of carbon each represent one mole of their respective atoms, which corresponds to Avogadro's number (approximately 6.022 x 10^23 atoms). The difference in mass for these moles is due to the atomic weights of hydrogen and carbon; hydrogen atoms are lighter than carbon atoms. This does not imply that hydrogen is denser or heavier than carbon; rather, it highlights that lighter atoms require less mass to constitute a mole. The mole is defined as a specific quantity of particles, similar to a dozen, and the mass of a mole of an element is directly related to the mass of a single atom of that element.
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i need to get the hang of the mole concept that , 1.008 g of hydrogen constitutes 1 mole atom, whereas 12g of carbon constitute that 1 mole atom! does it mean that these amounts for H & C contains the Avogadro number of atoms??
does it imply the hydrogen is more denser (or heavier or something crucial) than the carbon as it needs to be only 1 gm of it to be 1 mole?? why does this difference in mole amount (of grams ) happen??
 
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A mole is just a number of things, like a dozen. A mole of carbon atoms weighs more than a mole of hydrogen atoms because each carbon atom weighs more than each hydrogen atom. Just like a dozen bowling balls weighs more than a dozen ping-pong balls.
 
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phyzguy said:
A mole is just a number of things, like a dozen.

… to be precise (almost), 6.022142 1023 things :wink:

(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit ))

if you go into the garden and find 602,214,200,000,000,000,000,000 moles, that's a mole of moles! :biggrin:
 
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Why is NA, the Avogadro number, chosen to be 6.02\times10^{23} (to 3 sf)?

Because this number is the number of atomic mass units (u) in 1 gram.

That is 1 \text{g} = 6.02\times10^{23} \text{u} = N_A \text{u}

So, because the mass of a C12 atom is 12 u, the mass of a mole of them (Avogadro's number of them) will be N_A \times 12 \text{u} = 12 \times N_A \text{u} = 12 \text{g}.

[Note:in the SI, the Avogadro constant is defined to be a quantity with units, namely
Avogadro constant = 6.02\times10^{23} \text{mol}^{-1}.]
 
cooper607 said:
does it imply the hydrogen is more denser (or heavier or something crucial) than the carbon as it needs to be only 1 gm of it to be 1 mole??

No, the only thing it is related to is the mass of a single atom (molecule). Light atom (molecule) - low molar mass, heavy atom (molecule) - large molar mass.
 
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