Momentum and springs - A2 Physics

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the maximum compression of a spring when a train of mass 1.02x10^5 kg hits the buffer with an initial velocity of 0.15m/s. The solution involves using the formula for momentum (P=mv) and assuming the stiffness of the spring to be F/d. The final answer is 0.0847m and another approach using the kinetic and potential energy systems is also mentioned.
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Vanagib
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Homework Statement


A train of total mass 1.02x10^5 kg strikes a buffer that behaves like a spring of stiffness 320kN/m with an initial velocity of 0.15m/s
Calculate the maximum compression of the spring.


Homework Equations


P=mv


The Attempt at a Solution


P=mv
= 15300kgm/s

Units of spring stiffness so assumed Stiffness = F/d
P=Ft
F=P/t

so S=P/dt, v=d/t
t=d/v

so, S=Pv/d^2

d^2=Pv/s
d=sqrt (pv/s)
final solution:

sqrt ((1.53x10^4 * 0.15) / 320x10^3)

= 0.0847m compression.


Comments:
Unsure of the real answer, and this method is totally invented. - Nor does it appear to take into account the changing force with respect to distance. - Is there a simpler method I have not taken into account? - This much assumption seems very off compared to the rest of the A2 syllabus

Thanks,
Vanagib.
 
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  • #2
The answer is correct. (Didn't check your method btw.)
 
  • #3
Hi Vanagib,

i think you are right


another approach:

If the train is stopped by the spring, the hole kinetic energy of the train is saved in the spring, so

[tex]T = V[/tex]​
[tex]\frac{1}{2} m v^2 = \frac{1}{2} k x^2[/tex]​
[tex]x_{max} = \sqrt{\frac{m}{k}} \cdot v = 0.0847 m[/tex]​

with best regards!
 
  • #4
That's the correct answer.

a simpler way to do this would to consider the Kinetic/Potential energy systems. The train has initial Kinetic energy found by .5mv^2, and when the train stops the buffer has all of that energy transformed into potential energy, which for a spring is .5kx^2. set the two equal, and simple algebra to solve for x.

but the way you did it is fine too.

edit: it seems as in typing this I've been beat to my explanation, and with Latex too!
 
  • #5
Many thanks all :)
 

FAQ: Momentum and springs - A2 Physics

What is momentum?

Momentum is a measure of an object's motion. It is calculated by multiplying an object's mass by its velocity. This means that objects with larger masses or higher velocities will have greater momentum.

How does momentum relate to springs?

When a spring is stretched or compressed, it stores potential energy. This potential energy is related to the displacement of the spring and the force required to stretch or compress it. The force on the spring is directly proportional to the displacement and the constant of proportionality is called the spring constant. This force can be used to calculate the momentum of the spring.

What is a spring constant?

The spring constant is a measure of how stiff a spring is. It is calculated by dividing the applied force by the displacement of the spring. A higher spring constant means that more force is required to stretch or compress the spring, while a lower spring constant means that less force is required.

How does mass affect the momentum of a spring?

The mass of a spring does not affect its momentum. However, the mass of an object attached to the spring can affect the momentum. As the mass increases, so does the momentum of the object attached to the spring.

What is Hooke's law and how does it relate to springs?

Hooke's law states that the force required to stretch or compress a spring is directly proportional to the displacement of the spring. This means that as the displacement increases, so does the force on the spring. It is used to calculate the spring constant and understand the behavior of springs under different forces and displacements.

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