Momentum Physics Problem: Two astronauts throw billiard balls that collide

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Homework Statement
Two astronauts, George and Erin, throw two identical billiard balls at each other in space, far from any gravitational influence. George’s ball is initially traveling at 4.2 m/s, while Erin’s ball is traveling at 3.5 m/s. The balls collide and George’s ball is determined to be deflected by 35° with respect to the original direction. Its speed after the collision is 3.4 m/s.
a) What is the speed and direction of Erin’s ball?
b) Determine whether this is an elastic or inelastic collision. Motivate your answer.
Relevant Equations
pi=pf
m1v1+m2v2=m1v1+m2v2 (Final)
and KEi=KEf
My attempt is shown below.
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Here is a better photo:
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The collision can be inelastic even if the balls don't stick together. Inelastic simply means that total KE is not conserved.

If the balls stick together, the collision is often called "completely inelastic".

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Okay, thank you so much for telling me!
I just tried to write LaTeX, I clicked preview and nothing happened to the text so I don't believe I'm writing it correct.
here is my work though:
pi=pf
mv1(initial) + mv2(initial) = mv1 (final) + mv2 (final)
so substitute the values im given:
4.2-3.5=3.5cos35 + v2cosx (i think it's subtraction since Erin's ball in this case is being thrown in the opposite direction)
In an elastic collision the KE is conserved so KEi=KEf
1/2mv1^2 (initial) + 1/2mv2^2 (initial) = 1/2mv1^2 (final) + 1/2mv2^2 (final)
plugging all the information in I find that v2 is 4.2 m/s.
i substitute the value i found for v2 into the first equation and i get that 0.7=3.4cos35 + 4.2cosx
so therefore I use the inverse cosine function and i calculate x to be an angle of 119.7 degrees.
i'm not sure if this is right or not because i was trying to imagine the scenario in my head but 119 degrees doesn't seem right.
 
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in33dphysicshelp said:
In an elastic collision the KE is conserved so KEi=KEf
1/2mv1^2 (initial) + 1/2mv2^2 (initial) = 1/2mv1^2 (final) + 1/2mv2^2 (final)
plugging all the information in I find that v2 is 4.2 m/s.
You are assuming the collision is elastic. This is not justified.

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In addition to what has already been said about enrgy conservation, your momentum conservation is incomplete. This is a two-dimensional collision which means that you need to write two momentum conservation equations, one in the direction of the original motion and one perpendicular to it.
 
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Okay this is what I updated.
I split the momentum into x and y components.
i did 4.2-3.5=3.4cos35 + v2fcosx
0=3.4sin35 + v2f sinx
i did v2fsinx/v2fcosx and got tanx = 2.09/1.95 so i did the inverse of tan, got that the angle was about 46.98 degrees.
then to calculate for v2f i just plugged in 46.98 degrees into one of the momentum equations and i got that v2f is -3.06 m/s.
 
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in33dphysicshelp said:
Okay this is what I updated.
I split the momentum into x and y components.
i did 4.2-3.5=3.4cos35 + v2fcosx
0=3.4sin35 + v2f sinx
OK

in33dphysicshelp said:
i did v2fsinx/v2fcosx and got tanx = 2.09/1.95
Check this. Are the numbers in the right place on the right side?
 
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in33dphysicshelp said:
Homework Statement: Two astronauts, George and Erin, throw two identical billiard balls at each other in space, far from any gravitational influence.
Why do so many physics teachers think there is no gravity in space?
 

FAQ: Momentum Physics Problem: Two astronauts throw billiard balls that collide

What is the principle behind the collision of billiard balls in space?

The principle behind the collision of billiard balls in space is the conservation of momentum. In a closed system where no external forces act, the total momentum before and after the collision remains constant. This principle is used to analyze the velocities and directions of the billiard balls after they collide.

How do you calculate the velocities of the billiard balls after the collision?

The velocities of the billiard balls after the collision can be calculated using the conservation of momentum and, if the collision is elastic, the conservation of kinetic energy. The equations for these conservation laws are set up based on the initial velocities and masses of the billiard balls, and solved simultaneously to find the final velocities.

What is the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions in this context?

In an elastic collision, both momentum and kinetic energy are conserved. This means that the total kinetic energy of the billiard balls before and after the collision is the same. In an inelastic collision, momentum is conserved but kinetic energy is not; some of the kinetic energy is transformed into other forms of energy, such as heat or sound.

How does the mass of the astronauts affect the collision of the billiard balls?

The mass of the astronauts does not directly affect the collision of the billiard balls, as the problem typically assumes the astronauts are stationary or their movements are negligible. The focus is on the masses and velocities of the billiard balls. However, if the astronauts were to move, their momentum would need to be considered in the overall system's momentum conservation.

Can the direction of the billiard balls be predicted after they collide?

Yes, the direction of the billiard balls after they collide can be predicted using the conservation of momentum and, in the case of elastic collisions, the conservation of kinetic energy. By resolving the momentum vectors before and after the collision, the angles at which the billiard balls scatter can be determined.

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