Mouse Glide Science: Investigating Friction

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In summary: Generally the straghtforward ##F_f=\mu{F}_n## rule applies only when the two surfaces are rigid enough that they don't deform under the pressure from the normal force.It might be worthy of note that most actual mousepads employ an very dense foam that takes considerable downward force even at the point of a finger to compress. This is the place where surface area has an effect - the deformation of the surface. It is highly unlikely that as large as most mice are that one could substantially compress an actual pad. That said, there are gaming pads that have a cloth surface on one side and a metal surface on the other and the metal side is very fast. The textured
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I've recently been looking at the friction caused by a computer mouse sliding on a mousepad.

I was wondering, if I increased the size (area) of the mousefeet (points of contact of the mouse with the mousepad) will I get an increase in static and/or dynamic friction?

Also, will increasing the weight of the mouse increase static and/or dynamic friction?

Furthermore, let's take a mousepad with a cloth surface with a foam layer underneath where the mouse slightly sinks in if there is enough perpendicular force acting on it. If I have two mousepads with exactly the same surface but one with a foam layer thicker than the other, how will they compare in terms of static and dynamic friction? (might be wise to consider there will be a hard material under the foam layer)


Thanks in advance!
 
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You might want to start by reading about friction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction

In particular pay attention to the sliding block on an inclined plane. Notice how the normal vector is connected to the friction the block has and also that there are two kinds of frictions static and kinetic each with their own coefficients that are dependent on the surface.
 
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jedishrfu said:
You might want to start by reading about friction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction

In particular pay attention to the sliding block on an inclined plane. Notice how the normal vector is connected to the friction the block has and also that there are two kinds of frictions static and kinetic each with their own coefficients that are dependent on the surface.


I read it all twice and it did not answer my questions. :(
 
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Brumor said:
I read it all twice and it did not answer my questions. :(

OK, let's try a few.
if I increased the size (area) of the mousefeet (points of contact of the mouse with the mousepad) will I get an increase in static and/or dynamic friction?
The simplest model says that the frictional is equal to a constant times the normal force: ##F_f=\mu{F}_n## where the "normal force" is the perpendicular force between the two surfaces and ##\mu## is a constant. For a computer mouse, the normal force is the weight of the mouse plus whatever additional force comes from the user pressing the mouse down, resting soem of the weight of his hand on it, or whatever.

The contact area doesn't show up in this formula, so it doesn't affect the frictional force.

Also, will increasing the weight of the mouse increase static and/or dynamic friction?
Yes. That will increase the normal force and hence the frictional force.

Furthermore, let's take a mousepad with a cloth surface with a foam layer underneath where the mouse slightly sinks in if there is enough perpendicular force acting on it. If I have two mousepads with exactly the same surface but one with a foam layer thicker than the other, how will they compare in terms of static and dynamic friction?
That will depend on the exact details of the materials used, but for most reasonable setups, you would expect that the constant ##\mu## will be higher on the softer surface, so the frictional force would be greater for the same normal force.

This case can become very complicated because, although the contact area doesn't affect the normal force, it does affect the pressure across the contact area, and that pressure in turn affects how much the softer surface deforms, which in turn affects the value of ##\mu##. So ##\mu## may not be a constant in this situation.

Generally the straghtforward ##F_f=\mu{F}_n## rule applies only when the two surfaces are rigid enough that they don't deform under the pressure from the normal force.
 
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It might be worthy of note that most actual mousepads employ an very dense foam that takes considerable downward force even at the point of a finger to compress. This is the place where surface area has an effect - the deformation of the surface. It is highly unlikely that as large as most mice are that one could substantially compress an actual pad. That said, there are gaming pads that have a cloth surface on one side and a metal surface on the other and the metal side is very fast. The textured cloth surface is a holdover from the days when mice had balls. I refuse to comment on whether this has affected their testosterone levels :biggrin:
 

FAQ: Mouse Glide Science: Investigating Friction

1. What is friction and how does it affect mouse gliding?

Friction is the force that resists the relative motion of two surfaces in contact. In the case of mouse gliding, friction is the resistance between the mouse and the surface it is moving on. This resistance can affect the speed and smoothness of the mouse's movement.

2. How do you measure friction in mouse gliding?

To measure friction in mouse gliding, you can use a force sensor to measure the amount of force needed to move the mouse across different surfaces. You can also measure the distance the mouse travels with a set amount of force on different surfaces to compare the friction levels.

3. What factors can affect friction in mouse gliding?

There are several factors that can affect friction in mouse gliding such as the type of surface, the texture of the surface, the weight of the mouse, and the amount of force applied to the mouse.

4. How can friction in mouse gliding be reduced?

Friction in mouse gliding can be reduced by using a mouse pad or other smooth, low-friction surface. Additionally, keeping the mouse and surface clean can also reduce friction. Lubricants can also be used, but it is important to use ones that are safe for electronics and will not damage the mouse.

5. What are the practical applications of studying friction in mouse gliding?

Studying friction in mouse gliding can have practical applications in improving the design and functionality of computer mice. It can also help in creating more efficient and ergonomic workspaces by reducing the strain on the hand and wrist while using a mouse. Understanding friction can also aid in the development of better gaming mice for smoother and more precise movements.

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