Moving a function under an integral

In summary, the expressionf(\vec{k}) = f(\vec{k}),yields the correct result when integrating the exponential function over the primed k.
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NanakiXIII
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I've got an integral of the form

[tex]
\int d^3x e^{-i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} \int d^3k e^{i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} f(\vec{k})
[/tex]

and I'm wondering whether or not the following is a valid approach. I want to move the factor

[tex]
e^{-i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}}
[/tex]

under the k-integral, so I relabel my k so that I end up with

[tex]
\int d^3x \int d^3k e^{i (\vec{k}-\vec{k}') \cdot \vec{x}} f(\vec{k}).
[/tex]

One now just needs to remember that the primed k is actually the same as the old k, but we don't want to integrate over it. Now the x-integral turns the exponential factor into a delta-function, so that we get (apart from some factors of [itex]2\pi[/itex])

[tex]
\int d^3k \delta(\vec{k}-\vec{k}') f(\vec{k}),
[/tex]

which just yields

[tex]
f(\vec{k}') = f(\vec{k}).
[/tex]

Now, maybe it's just me, but what I just did sounds too easy to be true, but I'm not sure what might be flawed about my reasoning. Can anyone tell me whether there is anything wrong with it?
 
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Hi NanakiXIII! :smile:
NanakiXIII said:
One now just needs to remember that the primed k is actually the same as the old k, but we don't want to integrate over it. Now the x-integral turns the exponential factor into a delta-function, so that we get (apart from some factors of 2π)

Your very first line didn't make sense …

how you could you possibly start with the same k both outside and inside an integral? :confused:

(where does this come from?)
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi NanakiXIII! :smile:


Your very first line didn't make sense …

how you could you possibly start with the same k both outside and inside an integral? :confused:

(where does this come from?)

I'm not sure what you mean. Why couldn't there be a function of the same variable k outside the integral, as well as a function of k inside? Perhaps I didn't write it down clearly. My expression is

[tex]
\int d^3x \left( e^{-i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} \int d^3k \left( e^{i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} f(\vec{k}) \right) \right)
[/tex]

This integral arose in a QFT problem I was doing. Basically there's a Fourier expansion for a function (the integral over k) and I'm transforming that back (but with a slightly different transformation).
 
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perhaps I should have been more specific …

how you could you possibly start with the same k both outside an integral and as the dummy variable of integration inside it? :wink:
 
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tiny-tim said:
perhaps I should have been more specific …

how you could you possibly start with the same k both outside an integral and as the dummy variable of integration inside it? :wink:

I still don't understand. Perhaps you're tripping over some mathematical sloppiness I'm not aware of.
 
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I don't understand what makes you think that they were the same k in the first place …
NanakiXIII said:
One now just needs to remember that the primed k is actually the same as the old k, but we don't want to integrate over it. Now the x-integral turns the exponential factor into a delta-function, so that we get (apart from some factors of 2π)
 
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tiny-tim said:
I don't understand what makes you think that they were the same k in the first place …

Oh. I see what you mean now. I had forgotten what I was integrating over (i.e. that it's not an indefinite integral). I see why you reacted so confused. Thanks for helping me see that. It was just a sloppiness, but one I forgot to keep track of.

This makes things even easier. At least now I'm convinced it's also correct. You didn't see any error in the rest, right?
 
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No, seems fine! :smile:
 
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Thanks for the help!
 

FAQ: Moving a function under an integral

What is the concept of "moving a function under an integral"?

Moving a function under an integral, also known as "switching the order of integration", is a mathematical technique used to simplify integrals by changing the order in which the variables are integrated. This allows for easier integration and can often lead to more efficient solutions.

When is it necessary to move a function under an integral?

Moving a function under an integral is necessary when the original order of integration leads to a complex or difficult integral. By changing the order of integration, the integral can be simplified and solved more easily.

What are the steps for moving a function under an integral?

The steps for moving a function under an integral include identifying the variables and limits of integration, setting up the integral in the new order, performing the necessary substitutions, and solving the integral using the new order of integration.

Are there any restrictions when moving a function under an integral?

Yes, there are restrictions when moving a function under an integral. The new order of integration must still cover the same region as the original integral, and the integral must still converge. Additionally, the variables in the integral must be independent of each other.

Can moving a function under an integral change the value of the integral?

No, moving a function under an integral does not change the value of the integral. It only changes the way the integral is written and solved. The final answer should be the same regardless of the order in which the variables are integrated.

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