Multimode optical fiber, physics beginner help :D

[Xenon02]

Hello !
I have a problem understanding how light works in multimode optical fiber.
What do I mean in single-mode optical fiber there is single light which contains information. In multimode there can be multiple lights with multiple information.

Like here 1st picture contains multiple information.
I know also from physics that when the light beam crosses with each other then they sum up with each other and can get stronger or weaker like here :

Or here :

Doesn't the light in multimode also cross with each other like here ? And if so doesn't it change the information it contains ?

PS.
I'm really weak when it comes to physics that's why I'm trying to learn it a bit. Can someone explain it from the 3rd picture why is it weaker at the edges ?
I know that lasers have the same phase for each direction so when 2 same phases cross with each other doesn't it always increas the amplitude because they are in the same phase like in picture nr.2.

Like here :

Laser and it spreads into different directions but because it is a laser it has the same phase not like in light bulb in which light has different phases.

Adding another laser will make now 2 light that have the same phase crossing each other. Will it increase the amplitude or decrease like in picture nr.2 ? They have the same phase but different direction so ?

Thank you and sorry for asking many questions.

EDIT :

Sorry it's in polish. But here it is shown that two lasers have the same phase, they are not shifted.

 

[tech99]

You seem to be over thinking this. A multimode fibre carries just one data stream. It is bigger than monomode, which makes interfacing easier and allows LED sources to be used. However, as the light can follow several paths through the fibre, a pulse arriving at the output is slightly smeared. This reduces the maximum signalling speed compared to single mode fibre, where no smearing occurs. The optical devices for multimode fibre are easier and cheaper but the maximum signalling speed is less.

 

[Xenon02]

You seem to be over thinking this. A multimode fibre carries just one data stream. It is bigger than monomode, which makes interfacing easier and allows LED sources to be used. However, as the light can follow several paths through the fibre, a pulse arriving at the output is slightly smeared. This reduces the maximum signalling speed compared to single mode fibre, where no smearing occurs. The optical devices for multimode fibre are easier and cheaper but the maximum signalling speed is less.

Maybe I am overthinking here a bit.
I just read that multimode carries more than 1 stream of light ? In monomode there is one light stream in the multimode there is much more than one. I had just a problem when it comes with these light "crossing" with each other, or how does the electronic device know which light contains what information. Something like that.

 

[berkeman]

I just read that multimode carries more than 1 stream of light ? In monomode there is one light stream in the multimode there is much more than one.

Can you please always post a link to whatever you "read"? That helps us to respond to your questions. Thank you. And more accurately, there are multiple "paths" that light can take in a multi-mode optical fiber, hence the spreading out of the received optical pulses that @tech99 mantioned. You can still use different wavelengths of optical light to carry different signal streams, but each will be limited in the maximum modulation frequency based on the spreading of that modulation due to the multi-path issue of the bigger fiber diameter.

I had just a problem when it comes with these light "crossing" with each other, or how does the electronic device know which light contains what information.

Please don't anthropomorphize electronic devices. They hate it when you do that.

But seriously, as already stated, the different path lengths for the different modes in multi-mode FO just spreads out the receive modulation and limits how fast that modulation can be.

Can you also post links to the reading you've been doing about communcation modulation techniques and bandwidth limitations for each? Thanks.

 

[Xenon02]

Can you please always post a link to whatever you "read"? That helps us to respond to your questions. Thank you.

Most of them are my university lectures.
Also I don't know if my polish PDF-s/websites will be understandable :D
Here is an example for multimode fibre site I've used : https://fiberm.pl/pl/blog/przeglad-swiatlowodow-jednomodowych-i-wielomodowych/b2

https://www.dipol.com.pl/swiatlowod_jednomodowy_i_wielomodowy_-_wprowadzenie_bib321.htm
It is as I read stated that multimode contains many stream light with the same wavelenght
And it was very interesting for me because I've seen while having lecture that many light can be "added" into one fiber optic line, like 10 stream light added into one optic fiber.

So I was a bit confused.
Because like here :

Or here :

I knew that something happens to the light when they "meet" each other.
Also while I was writting about it I got again confused because why it is stronger at some point and weaker at other point because laser has the same phase like here :

Adding another laser will make now 2 light that have the same phase crossing each other. Will it increase the amplitude or decrease like in picture nr.2 ? They have the same phase but different direction so ?

Thank you and sorry for asking many questions.

EDIT :

As I can see they same the same phase.
Look at the second blue box it looks exactly like they are in phase so it should be increased but as some point it increases and at some it doesn't like here :

But seriously, as already stated, the different path lengths for the different modes in multi-mode FO just spreads out the receive modulation and limits how fast that modulation can be.

I don't really understand...
I mean what is wrong with my "theory" about what happens to the light when they meet each other like will they be stronger because of the interferation effect ? And if so wouldn't it change the information that the light was about to deliver ? Or somehow ? I don't know yet how light contains information but this is my blind quess.
I just get confused because there are many things that can happen to the light so it's confusing.

 

[Xenon02]

PS.
Here is also what I mentioned about connecting many source of light into one :

It is from my university lectures. So there is only a photo.
I mean I get confused when it comes to this interferation effect, and if it changes anything here ...
Sorry for my confusion it is just that one physics law mixes my vision how everything works smoothly.

 

[tech99]

If you watch the sea waves bouncing off a harbour wall you will see that two waves can pass through each other without interference. As they travel over each other the peak amplitude is increased, but when they emerge the other side they come out unscathed.
In the picture, we see a fibre communication system using wavelength division multiplexing. Each source and each detector has a different wavelength. The waves co-exist in the fibre without interaction.

 

[Xenon02]

@tech99

If you watch the sea waves bouncing off a harbour wall you will see that two waves can pass through each other without interference. As they travel over each other the peak amplitude is increased, but when they emerge the other side they come out unscathed.

Why is that whey pass each other without interference ?
Doesn't it work like here ?

Like they interfere with each other and at the end we see the new stronger wave at some point and weaker at the other point ?

In the picture, we see a fibre communication system using wavelength division multiplexing. Each source and each detector has a different wavelength. The waves co-exist in the fibre without interaction.

Why the same wavelenght can interfere but different wavelength can't ?
Also comming back to this quote. They co-exist in one optive fiber and doesn't interact ? Why ?

 

[sophiecentaur]

I just read that multimode carries more than 1 stream of light ?

That's a really abysmal attempt to describe it; no wonder the OP was confused. In most fibres, other than the very thinnest, there are many different paths through the fibre, depending on the angle of entry from any single laser source (same original 'stream'). This would be multimode propagation. Getting most of the light power into the fibre is hard and the optics of launching will produce different delays over the different paths (imagine the 'fan' of rays entering the face of the fibre). The different delays will produce a number of 'pulses' at the other end, all at slightly different times, which blurs the transitions. (Inter-symbol interference) The spread of delays increases with fibre length so long fibres have a lower possible symbol rate. Also, bends in the fibre add to the effect.

A monomode fibre is thin enough to provide just one path and that is from just perpendicular incidence. The curve of a fibre has less and less effect as it is thinner and the single ray ('mode') propagates over a long distance. Of course, it's even harder to get a lot of power into a single mode and the optics is more demanding.

 

[tech99]

@tech99Why is that whey pass each other without interference ?
Doesn't it work like here ?

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Like they interfere with each other and at the end we see the new stronger wave at some point and weaker at the other point ?Why the same wavelenght can interfere but different wavelength can't ?
Also comming back to this quote. They co-exist in one optive fiber and doesn't interact ? Why ?

I described the waves bouncing off a harbour wall. Where the waves overlap we can extract twice the energy if we wish. But if we do not extract any energy, the waves emerge again unaltered. With the multimode fibre, we launch several waves and they stay separate as they travel along the fibre, and we collect them at the end, giving us back our energy (minus fibre losses).

 

[sophiecentaur]

Why the same wavelenght can interfere but different wavelength can't ?
Also comming back to this quote. They co-exist in one optive fiber and doesn't interact ? Why ?

An interference pattern between light from two sources will only be seen if the path difference between the two path lengths is the same at all times in anyone place. So the maxes and mins will turn up in the same place all the time. A wide fibre could have bright and dark areas. If the light sources are not the same wavelength / frequency, the relative phases march past each other so there's never a max or min in the same place so there's no stationary pattern.
PS it's a different matter if the medium that the light passes through is not linear. Two beams can interact and produce new frequencies due to what they call intermodulation. Glass / air / water are linear for practical power levels of light.

 

[tech99]

If you were able to insert a probe into the multimode fibre, you would see interference effects happening. The two waves do not interact, the fields just add or subtract, giving local positions where the intensity is higher or lower. The addition of the two waves can never give you more energy out than energy in, it is just that in some positions the power density is increased.

 

[Xenon02]

Okey so correct me if you can @tech99 and @sophiecentaur
From this :

That's a really abysmal attempt to describe it; no wonder the OP was confused. In most fibres, other than the very thinnest, there are many different paths through the fibre, depending on the angle of entry from any single laser source (same original 'stream'). This would be multimode propagation. Getting most of the light power into the fibre is hard and the optics of launching will produce different delays over the different paths (imagine the 'fan' of rays entering the face of the fibre). The different delays will produce a number of 'pulses' at the other end, all at slightly different times, which blurs the transitions. (Inter-symbol interference) The spread of delays increases with fibre length so long fibres have a lower possible symbol rate. Also, bends in the fibre add to the effect.

A monomode fibre is thin enough to provide just one path and that is from just perpendicular incidence. The curve of a fibre has less and less effect as it is thinner and the single ray ('mode') propagates over a long distance. Of course, it's even harder to get a lot of power into a single mode and the optics is more demanding.

I understand I guess that multimodule gives more "paths" for single light in which this single light is bouncing from one side to another.
I don't understand the moment with the power light.
Also the delays does it mean that from one source of light we can get more ? And each one of them can have different delays ?

I described the waves bouncing off a harbour wall. Where the waves overlap we can extract twice the energy if we wish. But if we do not extract any energy, the waves emerge again unaltered. With the multimode fibre, we launch several waves and they stay separate as they travel along the fibre, and we collect them at the end, giving us back our energy (minus fibre losses).

As I understand I don't know.
These light sources like in the picture from Post#1 picture one with multimodule.
Let's say we have 3 the same light, they "cross" each other and because they are the same they will intefere ? If yes then if we don't pick this moment then they will come back to normal and nothing changes ?

An interference pattern between light from two sources will only be seen if the path difference between the two path lengths is the same at all times in anyone place. So the maxes and mins will turn up in the same place all the time. A wide fibre could have bright and dark areas. If the light sources are not the same wavelength / frequency, the relative phases march past each other so there's never a max or min in the same place so there's no stationary pattern.
PS it's a different matter if the medium that the light passes through is not linear. Two beams can interact and produce new frequencies due to what they call intermodulation. Glass / air / water are linear for practical power levels of light.

But I don't understand why they have minimum when the requirement for the minimum is that 2 light wektors are in different phases, or more precisely shifted 180 degrees. But the laser has the same phase in every direction so it doesn't make sense for me. Doesn't these light can also meet when they are shifted not 180 degrees but 72 degrees ? Something happens then ?

Also Ps from quote 2.
Does it mean that the final effect from the post#1 picture 2 is that we receive the interference ? if we didn't receive the interference then I could receive normal light source without any increasing because of crossing 2 light sources ?

If you were able to insert a probe into the multimode fibre, you would see interference effects happening. The two waves do not interact, the fields just add or subtract, giving local positions where the intensity is higher or lower. The addition of the two waves can never give you more energy out than energy in, it is just that in some positions the power density is increased.

I thought that the interference give the ability to connect two sources and increase the source ?

I'm sorry if what I said is stupid, I'm a hard learner. Some stuff just get's mixed in my mind :D

 

[sophiecentaur]

Let's say we have 3 the same light, they "cross" each other and because they are the same they will intefere ? If yes then if we don't pick this moment then they will come back to normal and nothing changes ?

You need to start at the beginning of Interference / Diffraction in order to understand all this. This type of phenomenon is best described in terms of Waves and the most elementary situation is described in the Young's Slits effect. This is described in a Kahn Academy link. You may need to wait a while before connecting this with your original optical fibre question but it's the basis of everything optical. Early on in the video he uses 'rays' and shows that it doesn't work that way - a useful lesson!

PS Sorry for using the word "abysmal" if, in fact it was you who introduced the term "streams of light". I was assuming you got it from an uninformed source that shouldn't be trying to teach anything about light.

 

[Xenon02]

You need to start at the beginning of Interference / Diffraction in order to understand all this. This type of phenomenon is best described in terms of Waves and the most elementary situation is described in the Young's Slits effect. This is described in a Kahn Academy link. You may need to wait a while before connecting this with your original optical fibre question but it's the basis of everything optical. Early on in the video he uses 'rays' and shows that it doesn't work that way - a useful lesson!

PS Sorry for using the word "abysmal" if, in fact it was you who introduced the term "streams of light". I was assuming you got it from an uninformed source that shouldn't be trying to teach anything about light.

I've watched it, some of the things he had mentioned was very interesting like this :

I've added one element (in red lines) this isn't the peak as I know right ?
So what if a peak lines up over a not peak then something can happen ?

Also as I can understand from this picture is that it is the representation of the laser ray ?
So if I had laser rays in the fibre optic it would look like that ?

And in scope it would look like that ? :

Now I wonder because they have different wavelength then they do not interfere, but if they had the same wavelenght then they interfere in the middle and then nothing happens after that ?
Because here :

This effect of lining up of the wavelength will result in the end like in the picture.

 

[sophiecentaur]

So what if a peak lines up over a not peak then something can happen ?

Green lines represent peaks of value +1 and half way between them are values of -1 (troughs)
The white dots are places where the peaks (+1 and +1) coincide and the result is twice the amplitude(+2) of one. Where two troughs coincide, the value is -2. The fringes (white bumps) represent high energy arriving over each cycle and are at the end of the lines of white dots and (not drawn) troughs.
At your brown 'dot', there is a peak (+1) and a trough (-1), adding together to produce an amplitude of zero. Zero energy flows in this direction.
Other combinations will produce +1+0 = +1 in other directions.

 

[Xenon02]

Green lines represent peaks of value +1 and half way between them are values of -1 (troughs)
The white dots are places where the peaks (+1 and +1) coincide and the result is twice the amplitude(+2) of one. Where two troughs coincide, the value is -2. The fringes (white bumps) represent high energy arriving over each cycle and are at the end of the lines of white dots and (not drawn) troughs.
At your brown 'dot', there is a peak (+1) and a trough (-1), adding together to produce an amplitude of zero. Zero energy flows in this direction.
Other combinations will produce +1+0 = +1 in other directions.

What I meant is that the wave is a sinusoidal so the peaks are at certain points but those waves have also spots where there is no peak like here :

I've used the red color to show it. It is not the peak it is something between the peaks.
And I was wondering what happens if not a peak lines up with peak.
Why at the end some peaks are stronger than the other peaks ? The center peak is stronger than the side peaks. Does the energy overlap ? Because before it was said that those increases doesn't stack, like it increases but when it exits this spot then it comes to normal here I see that they stack up.

A and what do you think of my interpretation of light rays in fibre optic multimode?

 

[Xenon02]

@sophiecentaur I don't know if I conveyed exactly what is my problem but I slowly am getting how things works.
I just don't get what happens if we have not the peak of waves but something in between ? Like peak wave lines up with not peak. Or why peak of the wave lines up with the valley peak of the other wave even though they are in phase. Also why the light gets weaker do they stack up ? I read that interference doesn't stack up it just interfere and when they exit this point then they are normal without any increases or decreases.

 

[sophiecentaur]

Like peak wave lines up with not peak.

For every peak (call it +1) there is an opposite trough (-1) these values are either side of an average value of zero. As the wave is sinusoidal, there is a continuum of values between peaks and troughs. "not peak" is not a meaningful term because it can refer to anywhere that's not an actual positive peak.
Read the descriptions more carefully and try not to let your own model of what's going on interfere with grasping the accepted model.
At the 'projection screen' waves are arriving everywhere. At the peaks of the pattern, the variation is between +2 and -2. elsewhere, the variation can be between +0.4 and -0.4 or +0.00012 and -0,00012 or any other values. At perfect cancellation, you get no variation about zero.

Personally, I find demonstrations of surface water waves very difficult to make sense of because the propagating waves get messed up by other standing waves that always seem to show up and also, flickering lighting upsets things too. I'd say that interfering light waves, accompanied by well drawn diagrams are the best way in. Yes - it's abstract stuff but so is a lot of Physics.

 

[Xenon02]

For every peak (call it +1) there is an opposite trough (-1) these values are either side of an average value of zero. As the wave is sinusoidal, there is a continuum of values between peaks and troughs. "not peak" is not a meaningful term because it can refer to anywhere that's not an actual positive peak.
Read the descriptions more carefully and try not to let your own model of what's going on interfere with grasping the accepted model.
At the 'projection screen' waves are arriving everywhere. At the peaks of the pattern, the variation is between +2 and -2. elsewhere, the variation can be between +0.4 and -0.4 or +0.00012 and -0,00012 or any other values. At perfect cancellation, you get no variation about zero.

Personally, I find demonstrations of surface water waves very difficult to make sense of because the propagating waves get messed up by other standing waves that always seem to show up and also, flickering lighting upsets things too. I'd say that interfering light waves, accompanied by well drawn diagrams are the best way in. Yes - it's abstract stuff but so is a lot of Physics.

@sophiecentaur
So let me use paint as a my understanding point :

in this picture there is an interference.
On the screen I can have +2 colored by green dots or I can have less but still increased colored by blue let's say it is +1 or 0.
So at the end of this interference from this video you have send me :

This big increase is exactly the green dots I have shown in the picture before ?
And also increase but smaller on the side are like my blue dots like in the picture before ?
Also what did I mean by not peak lining up with peak amplitude, something like this :

Not in phase because here :

But it works ?
Also the author of the video said that the waves are in phase but here it doesn't look like that.

 

[sophiecentaur]

Also the author of the video said that the waves are in phase but here it doesn't look like that.

They are clearly in anti phase there (in the direction of the gold points) - resulting in a zero sum. I can't be bothered to find this in the video but did he really say that? Of course they are always in a constant phase relationship at any point on the screen so the result will be a sine wave - just with different magnitude.
Have you taken on board the importance of the + and- signs in the combining of the waves?

 

[Xenon02]

Have you taken on board the importance of the + and- signs in the combining of the waves?

@sophiecentaur
Yes I have I guess understood the impotance of + and - sings. But I didn't understand why is it shifted in phase even though they are in phase so they should be increasing ?
I mean here is also shifted in phase waves :

Because those waves can meet each other like that if they can meet if it's shifted 180 degrees.
I just don't understand the logic of why it is shifted. And why on the screen only the middle one is the strongest and further they are weaker.
Because tech and you mentioned that they interfere but when they exit they are again normal :

The two waves do not interact, the fields just add or subtract, giving local positions where the intensity is higher or lower. The addition of the two waves can never give you more energy out than energy in, it is just that in some positions the power density is increased.

I described the waves bouncing off a harbour wall. Where the waves overlap we can extract twice the energy if we wish. But if we do not extract any energy, the waves emerge again unaltered.

I don't get it ...
On the video the middle one is stronger the other are not.
the phases they are in phase but they can cross each other when they are shifted in 180 degrees.
but what if they cross like that :

They can meet like that right ? Even if the rays are in phase in every direction like you mentioned.

Sorry I get confused ...

 

[Xenon02]

@sophiecentaur or am I wrong here ?

 

[sophiecentaur]

I just don't understand the logic of why it is shifted.

It's the difference in path length that causes different phase difference as you look along the screen. It's a very sensitive test of length and it is used for Interferometry to measure tiny movements.

 

[Xenon02]

@sophiecentaur

It's the difference in path length that causes different phase difference as you look along the screen. It's a very sensitive test of length and it is used for Interferometry to measure tiny movements.

I don't really understand it is it possible to give a sketch of how it looks like ? Difference in the path doesn't tell me alot, but okey let's say there is this difference in the path.
Usually when there is interference then +1 peak lines up with +1 peak or +1 peak lines up with -1 peak.
But what if it's in between like here :

Also I asked there why on the screen there is only one very bright point and the other bright points are weaker than the middle one.

Like here.
Beause it looks like the interference are stacking up ? Like +1 lines up with +1 then it's +2 then +2 lines up with +1 and it's +3 ?
I thought of it like that but it was mentioned that the wave when it exits the interference it comes back to normal like here quotes :

The two waves do not interact, the fields just add or subtract, giving local positions where the intensity is higher or lower. The addition of the two waves can never give you more energy out than energy in, it is just that in some positions the power density is increased.

I described the waves bouncing off a harbour wall. Where the waves overlap we can extract twice the energy if we wish. But if we do not extract any energy, the waves emerge again unaltered.

 

[sophiecentaur]

Also I asked there why on the screen there is only one very bright point and the other bright points are weaker than the middle one.

Let's get this out of the way first: the peaks are not all the same height because the slits do not produce an omnidirectional pattern. It's a practical problem, due to diffraction. Light off to one side is less intense because the slits are not infinitely thin. You must wait to understand about this and it's not relevant to the basic process.

Usually when there is interference then +1 peak lines up with +1 peak or +1 peak lines up with -1 peak.
But what if it's in between like here :

It's ALL interference. Sometimes it's constructive (maxes), sometimes it's destructive (in a null) and the rest of the time, when the two wave amplitudes are unequal, you can get a value in between.

I have a feeling that you are trying to learn this by the very dodgy 'Question and Answer' method. Every time you get to something difficult you ask a question instead of accepting what's said and trying to figure it out from that. You cannot rely on being able to spot what you really need to know. Do not skip over the steps in the Khan Academy tutorial . Don't expect it to be easy or to make instant sense.
The shame is that, if you were prepared to do a bit of Maths here, it would all be much simpler.

 

[sophiecentaur]

Where does the path difference come from?? Those concentric circles show equal steps in time delay. Look at the distance from one slit and the other; equal from each slot at points that are along the central line, it's always a different distance from each slot. If the difference is a whole number of wavelengths then you get constructive interference.

Distance from the slot corresponds to total phase delay.

 

[Xenon02]

Let's get this out of the way first: the peaks are not all the same height because the slits do not produce an omnidirectional pattern. It's a practical problem, due to diffraction. Light off to one side is less intense because the slits are not infinitely thin. You must wait to understand about this and it's not relevant to the basic process.

@sophiecentaur
I thought of the intensity of this bright points in the screen as an essential so I was asking.

It's ALL interference. Sometimes it's constructive (maxes), sometimes it's destructive (in a null) and the rest of the time, when the two wave amplitudes are unequal, you can get a value in between.

I have a feeling that you are trying to learn this by the very dodgy 'Question and Answer' method. Every time you get to something difficult you ask a question instead of accepting what's said and trying to figure it out from that. You cannot rely on being able to spot what you really need to know. Do not skip over the steps in the Khan Academy tutorial . Don't expect it to be easy or to make instant sense.
The shame is that, if you were prepared to do a bit of Maths here, it would all be much simpler.

I'm sorry I usually find something that isn't covered in the basics so it's confusing for me.
Because when there are 2 different wave lenghts then I thought that they don't interfere but from this quote I guess they can ?

Where does the path difference come from?? Those concentric circles show equal steps in time delay. Look at the distance from one slit and the other; equal from each slot at points that are along the central line, it's always a different distance from each slot. If the difference is a whole number of wavelengths then you get constructive interference.

Distance from the slot corresponds to total phase delay.

distance from one slit and the other you mean a single source or the slits from the connecting both sources ?

equal from each slot at points that are along the central line, it's always a different distance from each slot. If the difference is a whole number of wavelengths then you get constructive interference.

I don't understand this part.PS.

I have a feeling that you are trying to learn this by the very dodgy 'Question and Answer' method. Every time you get to something difficult you ask a question instead of accepting what's said and trying to figure it out from that.

I know this might be weird way. But I don't know how to understand it in different way, I always find something that doesn't make sense for me. Sorry of course.
I want to learn just how the light works but when I see new stuff it just bothers me why something doesn't happen when I put like 2 light rays in the multimode or something. I'm also trying to learn how lasers work and how optic amplifier works (because they seem similar, but in optic amplifier we don't want to have laser effect I don't know to be honest why but I'm still learning).

 

[sophiecentaur]

Just hang on a minute. What “two wavelengths” are you introducing? The wavelengths from each slit are the same as they come (split) from the same source.

You have zero chance with this if you don’t clear up the basics. I’m getting bored with your reactions.

 

[Xenon02]

Just hang on a minute. What “two wavelengths” are you introducing? The wavelengths from each slit are the same as they come (split) from the same source.

I said introduced it saying also about the multimode fibre :

I'm sorry I usually find something that isn't covered in the basics so it's confusing for me.
Because when there are 2 different wave lenghts then I thought that they don't interfere but from this quote I guess they can ?

You have zero chance with this if you don’t clear up the basics. I’m getting bored with your reactions.

I just wonder what I'm doing wrong then.
All I really know is that there is one source that is for example a laser. In the video of splits into two sources that are the same. Same phase same wavelength. They interfere with each other. Peaks lines up with peaks and that increases the amplitude or decreases the amplitude.
Shifts are cause of the direction the wave is directed to I guess.
Also this situation can also happen in two same sources :

 

[sophiecentaur]

I just wonder what I'm doing wrong then.

What you are doing wrong is refusing to read what's written because it's not what you have been thinking. The phase of a wave depends on how far from the source you are looking. To different sources in two different places will be shifted by different amounts except on the centre line. It's their relative phases that govern the result.
If you are still not getting it then use Google and read several different sources. The Hyperphysics site is pretty good for most basic Physics - but you have to READ what it says (the details). You have to open your mind for this. No one can do that for you.

 

[sophiecentaur]

Peaks lines up with peaks and that increases the amplitude or decreases the amplitude.

That is not what has been said! Read!

 

[Xenon02]

The phase of a wave depends on how far from the source you are looking. To different sources in two different places will be shifted by different amounts except on the centre line. It's their relative phases that govern the result.

This is the phase difference that you mentioned ?

This in red and in pink (I guess this is pink). This is what you mentioned about wave phases ?

 

[sophiecentaur]

Just get some reading on the topic. You are the one who’s out of step, as I have implied.

 

[Xenon02]

Just get some reading on the topic. You are the one who’s out of step, as I have implied.

@sophiecentaur
I mean I just got confused.
Many stuff just mixed up in my head and I don't know where to start again.
In the topic there is also everything a bit mixed. Or maybe I read it wrongly some comments.

How light works maybe easy but I just get confused of overflowed information I got from school.
I just think of the phases of the waves that spread all around. Also I think about what happens when there are more sources of light in the multifibre.

As you mentioned I might think wrong but I'm trying to get conclusion out of it. And I'm trying to use pictures and draw on them to show what does it mean to me what I read.
Also I tried to find something why what works but as I said new stuff just mixes with the old ones and even the old ones gets complicated.

Sorry.