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Ben Boldt
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TL;DR Summary: Resonance of a cylinder/tube with a hole in the center
The Science Museum of Minnesota has this really cool xylophone hanging from the ceiling, named "Seismofon":
There is a computer connected that receives almost-real-time seismic activity, and it uses that information to play various chords and riffs, etc. So it is always making little random noises basically.
I wanted to reproduce 1 of the tubes, just as a personal project for my own curiosity. You will notice, it is not exactly like a normal xylophone. The resonators are horizontal, with a hole in the CENTER, and the xylophone bar is parallel to the resonator. There is a solenoid that strikes the bar. I have determined that the tubes seen in the photo are 3 inch diameter, and they are very thin-walled. It would be pretty much exactly an exhaust pipe from a pickup truck.
I found an old 3" PVC pipe to experiment with. The inside diameter is 3", and the outside diameter is 3.5". I wanted this pipe to resonate at 440 Hz (Musical Note A4).
I found this website that describes the equations to determine the correct length of resonator versus frequency:
http://supermediocre.org/index.php/2016/04/13/tuning-the-tubes/
Tube closed on one end:
f1 = c / [ 4 (L + 0.61 r) ]
Tube open on both ends or closed on both ends:
f1 = c / [ 2 (L + 0.61 r) ]
f1: fundamental frequency
c: speed of sound
L: length of resonator pipe
r: radius of resonator pipe
At my elevation, the speed of sound is about c = 344.44 m/s.
I want f1 = 435 Hz (I can sand it shorter to tune it up to 440 Hz).
r = 1.5 inches = 0.0381 meters
My assumption, which seems to be wrong, was that the hole in the middle makes it like 2 separate open-ended resonators. So I solved the length using the second equation, then I cut the pipe twice as long as that and put a 3" hole in the center.
[435 Hz] = [344.44 m/s] / [ 2 (L + (0.61 * 0.0381) ) ]
<<solved for L>>
L = 0.3727 meters = 14.67 inches
2L = 29.34 inches
This is what my pipe looks like:
That same website from before, the guy described how he used a speaker and microphone to play a sine wave into his resonator. It starts at a low frequency, and moves higher. The resonator will amplify the sound at its fundamental frequency (f1). I tried this using this website to generate the sweep:
https://onlinesound.net/sweep-tone-generator
I found that my pipe's fundamental frequency was much lower than expected. It is about 377 Hz even though I was shooting for 435 Hz. So I do not think my assumption is correct that I can treat this like 2 open-ended resonators. I did not find any harmonic resonance lower than 377 Hz, so I am feeling like that is the fundamental frequency of this particular pipe.
Looking for clues and ideas, I noticed that if I divide 377Hz / 435Hz, I get a value very close to (√3)/2. The unit circle has the point (1/2, √3/2), seeing as how the hole is half-way down the pipe, maybe that gives us √3/2? It seems like a stretch but I am not sure what to think.
Does anyone have any insight how to how to correctly calculate this pipe length with the hole in the middle?
The Science Museum of Minnesota has this really cool xylophone hanging from the ceiling, named "Seismofon":
There is a computer connected that receives almost-real-time seismic activity, and it uses that information to play various chords and riffs, etc. So it is always making little random noises basically.
I wanted to reproduce 1 of the tubes, just as a personal project for my own curiosity. You will notice, it is not exactly like a normal xylophone. The resonators are horizontal, with a hole in the CENTER, and the xylophone bar is parallel to the resonator. There is a solenoid that strikes the bar. I have determined that the tubes seen in the photo are 3 inch diameter, and they are very thin-walled. It would be pretty much exactly an exhaust pipe from a pickup truck.
I found an old 3" PVC pipe to experiment with. The inside diameter is 3", and the outside diameter is 3.5". I wanted this pipe to resonate at 440 Hz (Musical Note A4).
I found this website that describes the equations to determine the correct length of resonator versus frequency:
http://supermediocre.org/index.php/2016/04/13/tuning-the-tubes/
Tube closed on one end:
f1 = c / [ 4 (L + 0.61 r) ]
Tube open on both ends or closed on both ends:
f1 = c / [ 2 (L + 0.61 r) ]
f1: fundamental frequency
c: speed of sound
L: length of resonator pipe
r: radius of resonator pipe
At my elevation, the speed of sound is about c = 344.44 m/s.
I want f1 = 435 Hz (I can sand it shorter to tune it up to 440 Hz).
r = 1.5 inches = 0.0381 meters
My assumption, which seems to be wrong, was that the hole in the middle makes it like 2 separate open-ended resonators. So I solved the length using the second equation, then I cut the pipe twice as long as that and put a 3" hole in the center.
[435 Hz] = [344.44 m/s] / [ 2 (L + (0.61 * 0.0381) ) ]
<<solved for L>>
L = 0.3727 meters = 14.67 inches
2L = 29.34 inches
This is what my pipe looks like:
That same website from before, the guy described how he used a speaker and microphone to play a sine wave into his resonator. It starts at a low frequency, and moves higher. The resonator will amplify the sound at its fundamental frequency (f1). I tried this using this website to generate the sweep:
https://onlinesound.net/sweep-tone-generator
I found that my pipe's fundamental frequency was much lower than expected. It is about 377 Hz even though I was shooting for 435 Hz. So I do not think my assumption is correct that I can treat this like 2 open-ended resonators. I did not find any harmonic resonance lower than 377 Hz, so I am feeling like that is the fundamental frequency of this particular pipe.
Looking for clues and ideas, I noticed that if I divide 377Hz / 435Hz, I get a value very close to (√3)/2. The unit circle has the point (1/2, √3/2), seeing as how the hole is half-way down the pipe, maybe that gives us √3/2? It seems like a stretch but I am not sure what to think.
Does anyone have any insight how to how to correctly calculate this pipe length with the hole in the middle?
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