Name of compensation factor when converting between coord. systems?

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In summary, when converting from one coordinate system to another, a special compensation factor known as the determinant of the Jacobian matrix must be used instead of standard conversion formulas. This factor is typically found in coursework that involves transforming between coordinate systems and can be identified through worked examples or by understanding the modified use of standard conversion formulas. However, in non-credit bearing courses, such as the one described in the conversation, the focus is on self-research and challenging one's own limits, making the identification of this factor part of the learning experience.
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When converting from one coordinate system to another, you cannot just use standard conversion formulas, but have to compensate using a special factor term. What is the name of that special compensation factor?

I'm having no luck with finding the name.
 
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Just to make sure I know what you are talking about, please provide an example.
 
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If you're talking about integrals, then it's the determinant of the Jacobian matrix. Otherwise, I agree with Simon that your statement is much too ambiguous.
 
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Sorry but this is the entire question. I can't offer clarification because I don't really get what is being asked either.
 
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It is unlikely that you will be asked a question like that unless the terms have been used before in your coursework.

That coursework probably involves transforming between coordinate systems.

Take a look at that work, especially worked examples, and see if you can work out what is meant by the "standard conversion formulas" and how these get modified when they are used.

If you don't see it - then please copy out an example from your coursework.
How are you expected to transform between coordinate systems?

To my mind - if a "compensating factor" were needed every time, then the "standard conversion formulas" would include it.

I was thinking "Jacobean" too ... but if that word does not ring any bells it's probably not it.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
It is unlikely that you will be asked a question like that unless the terms have been used before in your coursework.

That coursework probably involves transforming between coordinate systems.

Take a look at that work, especially worked examples, and see if you can work out what is meant by the "standard conversion formulas" and how these get modified when they are used.

If you don't see it - then please copy out an example from your coursework.
How are you expected to transform between coordinate systems?

To my mind - if a "compensating factor" were needed every time, then the "standard conversion formulas" would include it.

I was thinking "Jacobean" too ... but if that word does not ring any bells it's probably not it.

Jacobian was mentioned in passing.

This isn't a credit-bearing calculus course. It's just part of a summer program at my University for incoming qualifying low-income students. I was assigned to this particular course which has the goal of encouraging self research and challenging student limits. It's a mix of video lectures, quizzes, tests, self study and research, etc. We're given the most basic concepts then tests on those concepts at a more advanced level for the challenge. So it certainly is not a traditional mathematics courses. I've actually found such a style to be enjoyable in that it actually encourages me to try to understand concepts on a higher level.
 
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In another problem from the same problem set which I've asked about here, finding the solution involved Jacobians. Said question involved finding a compensation factor for conversions between coordinate units.

I think I'll go with the answer as Jacobian.

Thanks everyone!
 
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WK95 said:
In another problem from the same problem set which I've asked about here, finding the solution involved Jacobians. Said question involved finding a compensation factor for conversions between coordinate units.
That's what you needed to find all right ... double-check that the "compensating factor" is the "determinant of the Jacobean".

But since it is not credit-bearing, you can use the response to your answer as a learning exercise.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
But since it is not credit-bearing, you can use the response to your answer as a learning exercise.

Yep. That's pretty much the entire idea of this course.
 

FAQ: Name of compensation factor when converting between coord. systems?

What is a compensation factor when converting between coordinate systems?

A compensation factor is a value used to adjust coordinates from one coordinate system to another. It takes into account differences in the shape and orientation of the two coordinate systems.

How is the compensation factor calculated?

The calculation of the compensation factor depends on the specific coordinate systems being used. It typically involves taking into account the differences in the axes, scale, and rotation between the two systems.

Why is a compensation factor necessary when converting between coordinate systems?

Coordinate systems can vary in their orientation and shape, and using a compensation factor ensures that the converted coordinates accurately represent the same location in both systems. Without it, there may be errors in the converted coordinates.

Are compensation factors the same for all coordinate systems?

No, compensation factors are specific to the coordinate systems being used. Different systems will have different compensation factors due to their unique characteristics.

Can a single compensation factor be used for all conversions between coordinate systems?

No, each conversion will require its own specific compensation factor based on the coordinate systems involved. It is not a one-size-fits-all solution.

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