Natalee Holloway Suspect Sought in Peru Murder

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In summary, Joran van der Sloot, the 22-year-old Dutch playboy twice arrested in the mysterious disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, has been named the prime suspect in the death of a young Peruvian woman found dead in a Lima hotel today, five days after she disappeared. Officials believe Flores was killed exactly five years after Holloway's May 30, 2005, disappearance, and that her death may be connected to van der Sloot's involvement in the Holloway case.
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I can't believe the story: you book a hotel room on your name, you murder a woman in there and just leave? It might be true or not, the investigation should give an answer.
 
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The Peruvian police have issued an arrest warrant.

Also strange,
Officials believe Flores was killed exactly five years after Holloway's May 30, 2005, disappearance.
 
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Also to add to it, his father passed away in the past year. As you may know his father played a large role in the Holloway case. If this murder scenario is true he may in fact want to be caught, but it's all speculation.
 
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Monique said:
Also to add to it, his father passed away in the past year. As you may know his father played a large role in the Holloway case.
Oh. So he won't have any help this time?
 
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And how did his father die?
 
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very sloppy. seems the boy has some serious problems. some people turn violent when drunk. even saw a paper on why, recently.
 
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Monique said:
Also to add to it, his father passed away in the past year. As you may know his father played a large role in the Holloway case. If this murder scenario is true he may in fact want to be caught, but it's all speculation.

Or, since he has gotten away with this sort of thing before he is just getting cocky and feeling above the law. From the interviews he gave during the Holloway case he sounds sociopathic.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
And how did his father die?

A heart attack during a game of tennis. Someone dear to him who protected him fell away, that can have a severe impact on someones mind and actions.
 
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He's just been arrested.
 
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So in other words he probably killed Holloway? Why wasn't he arrested for that?
 
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Evo said:
He's just been arrested.
Oh boy. Now we'll get to learn how the justice system works in Peru?
 
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leroyjenkens said:
So in other words he probably killed Holloway? Why wasn't he arrested for that?
No, they never found that he had killed Holloway, so extrapolating beyond what is reasonable, they won't find that he killed this girl either. I think they didn't prosecute in Aruba because of a lack of evidence.
 
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Monique said:
A heart attack during a game of tennis. Someone dear to him who protected him fell away, that can have a severe impact on someones mind and actions.

severe (bad) with some people--in other people it drives them toward goals with a purpose


as far as van der Sloot, it's too bad castration isn't allowable as a part of the punishment
 
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rewebster said:
as far as van der Sloot, it's too bad castration isn't allowable as a part of the punishment

From what I've heard about prisons in Peru, I wouldn't make any assumptions in that regard.
 
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rewebster said:
severe (bad) with some people--in other people it drives them toward goals with a purpose

as far as van der Sloot, it's too bad castration isn't allowable as a part of the punishment

I've always believed that killers should be executed in the same manner as their victims. Unfortunately it's called cruel and unusual when it's applied to the killer. :rolleyes:
 
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Borg said:
I've always believed that killers should be executed in the same manner as their victims. Unfortunately it's called cruel and unusual when it's applied to the killer. :rolleyes:

I'd vote for that
 
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The purpose of the law is to maintain order, not to extract retribution. Beyond any moral objections to a system no better than a ruthless killer, there is the additional problem that no system is perfect. Like a ruthless killer, a system based on retribution is sure to victimize the innocent. But the crime would be even more egregious than that of the killer, because presumably the killer is sick or defective. We, on the other hand, have no excuse for condoning this crime.
 
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Borg said:
I've always believed that killers should be executed in the same manner as their victims.
Especially mass murderers.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
The purpose of the law is to maintain order, not to extract retribution. Beyond any moral objections to a system no better than a ruthless killer, there is the additional problem that no system is perfect. Like a ruthless killer, a system based on retribution is sure to victimize the innocent. But the crime would be even more egregious than that of the killer, because presumably the killer is sick or defective. We, on the other hand, have no excuse for condoning this crime.

yes, but there are always 'excuses'/ reasons why people do the things they do--for anything they do
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
The purpose of the law is to maintain order, not to extract retribution. Beyond any moral objections to a system no better than a ruthless killer, there is the additional problem that no system is perfect. Like a ruthless killer, a system based on retribution is sure to victimize the innocent. But the crime would be even more egregious than that of the killer, because presumably the killer is sick or defective. We, on the other hand, have no excuse for condoning this crime.

My comment is just wishful thinking to see some of the more egregious killers suffer the same fear that they have inflicted on others. I know that it would have lots of issues.

Getting back on topic:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/03/alabama.van.der.sloot/index.html"
 
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Did anyone see the released videos of the hotel? The cameras were right on his face and on the entrance of his hotel room door. Unless someone broke into the room from the outside, I see no way for him to escape conviction on this one.
 
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Monique said:
Did anyone see the released videos of the hotel? The cameras were right on his face and on the entrance of his hotel room door. Unless someone broke into the room from the outside, I see no way for him to escape conviction on this one.

Yes I saw it, it's very very strong evidence. He must not have known the camera was there.

He will probably rue the day he wriggled out of the Aruban justice system, only to end up in a Peruvian prison.
 
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lisab said:
Yes I saw it, it's very very strong evidence. He must not have known the camera was there.

He will probably rue the day he wriggled out of the Aruban justice system, only to end up in a Peruvian prison.

I believe that he's already regretting it. I can't imagine that the interrogation is as polite as the one that he received in Aruba.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100606/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_peru_van_der_sloot"
 
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News is reporting that he confessed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100608/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_peru_van_der_sloot"
 
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From what I've been hearing on the TV news, he is saying he didn't mean to kill her. I guess he just doesn't know his own strength when it comes to trying to rape.
 
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Apparently he was pissed off because Flores looked up his name on the internet.
 
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He killed that girl, so he most likely killed the other girl and since he's killed two people, he's probably killed others.
 
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If convicted, he could spend as little as fifteen years in prison. With the exceptions of treason and killing government officials, there is no death penalty.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
If convicted, he could spend as little as fifteen years in prison. With the exceptions of treason and killing government officials, there is no death penalty.

Why should it matter who you kill? That implies some people are better than others.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Why should it matter who you kill? That implies some people are better than others.

Peru is a highly class-conscious society. So in that sense this doesn't surprise me, but I think this speaks more to revolution, than crime.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Why should it matter who you kill? That implies some people are better than others.

It was probably passed in response to attempts to overthrow the government and previous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Conflict_in_Peru" .
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Peru is a highly class-conscious society. So in that sense this doesn't surprise me, but I think this speaks more to revolution, than crime.

It's also like that here in America. If you kill a cop, it carriers a lot harsher penalty than if you just kill some nobody on the street.
 
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dlgoff said:
From what I've been hearing on the TV news, he is saying he didn't mean to kill her. I guess he just doesn't know his own strength when it comes to trying to rape.
I wouldn't take anything he says seriously, given his history with interviews.
 
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There is a mistake in previous posts.

In Peru, death penalty applies only "in case of betrayal to the country during a war with an external enemy".

I am peruvian.
 

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