New formula for centripital force ? whats wrong

In summary: This is important because in circular motion, the direction of the force is constantly changing, so we need to use the unit vector to determine the direction of the force.
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ManishR
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new formula for centripital force ? what's wrong !

consider a circular motion with following variables with usual meanings,
[tex]\vec{r},\vec{F},\overrightarrow{\theta},t,v[/tex]

[tex]v=r\frac{d\theta}{dt}[/tex]

now

[tex]\frac{d\hat{r}}{dt}=(\frac{d\theta}{dt})\hat{\theta}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow\frac{d\hat{r}}{dt}=\frac{v}{r}\hat{\theta}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow\frac{d^{2}\hat{r}}{dt^{2}}=-\frac{v}{r}\hat{r}[/tex]

now according to Newton's law

[tex]m\frac{d^{2}\overrightarrow{r}}{dt^{2}}=\overrightarrow{F}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow mr\frac{d^{2}\hat{r}}{dt^{2}}=\overrightarrow{F}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow-mv\hat{r}=\overrightarrow{F}[/tex]

i am still not sure what actually this equation saying.
can someone recheck it please ? where i gone wrong ?
 
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You've made a mistake taking [itex]\frac{d\hat{\theta}}{dt}[/itex].

[tex]\frac{d\hat{\theta}}{dt} = -\left(\frac{d\theta}{dt}\right)\hat{r}[/tex]

So

[tex]\frac{d^2\hat{r}}{dt^2} = - \left(\frac{v}{r}\right)^2 \hat{r}[/tex]

And then

[tex]\vec{F} = mr\frac{d^2\hat{r}}{dt^2} = -\frac{mv^2}{r}\hat{r}[/tex]

Which is the correct formula for centripetal force.
 
  • #3


K^2 said:
You've made a mistake taking [itex]\frac{d\hat{\theta}}{dt}[/itex].

[tex]\frac{d\hat{\theta}}{dt} = -\left(\frac{d\theta}{dt}\right)\hat{r}[/tex]

So

[tex]\frac{d^2\hat{r}}{dt^2} = - \left(\frac{v}{r}\right)^2 \hat{r}[/tex]

And then

[tex]\vec{F} = mr\frac{d^2\hat{r}}{dt^2} = -\frac{mv^2}{r}\hat{r}[/tex]

Which is the correct formula for centripetal force.

thank u so much for ur help.
 
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K^2 said:
You've made a mistake taking [itex]\frac{d\hat{\theta}}{dt}[/itex].

[tex]\frac{d\hat{\theta}}{dt} = -\left(\frac{d\theta}{dt}\right)\hat{r}[/tex]

So

[tex]\frac{d^2\hat{r}}{dt^2} = - \left(\frac{v}{r}\right)^2 \hat{r}[/tex]

And then

[tex]\vec{F} = mr\frac{d^2\hat{r}}{dt^2} = -\frac{mv^2}{r}\hat{r}[/tex]

Which is the correct formula for centripetal force.

What is the difference between the two 'r''s? r by itself and r ^?
 
  • #5


litup said:
What is the difference between the two 'r''s? r by itself and r ^?
r is a magnitude; [itex]\hat{r}[/itex] is a unit vector.
 

FAQ: New formula for centripital force ? whats wrong

What is the new formula for centripital force?

The new formula for centripital force is F = mv^2/r, where F is the force, m is the mass of the object, v is the velocity of the object, and r is the radius of the circular path.

How is this formula different from the previous one?

This formula is different from the previous formula (F = mrω^2) because it uses the linear velocity (v) instead of the angular velocity (ω).

What was wrong with the previous formula for centripital force?

The previous formula for centripital force did not take into account the linear velocity of the object, which is necessary for calculating the force needed to keep the object in a circular path.

What are the implications of this new formula for centripital force?

This new formula allows for more accurate calculations of the force needed to keep an object in a circular path, taking into account both the mass and the linear velocity of the object.

How does this new formula impact the study of circular motion?

This new formula provides a more comprehensive understanding of circular motion and allows for more accurate predictions of the force needed to keep an object in a circular path. It may also lead to further advancements in the study of circular motion and its applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and astronomy.

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