Newton's Third Law: Confused by Box & Ground Forces

In summary, the conversation discusses the forces acting on a box resting on the ground. There are two pairs of forces - the weight of the box and the normal force from the ground, and the box's pull and the Earth's reaction. Both statements are correct and the force exerted by the ground on the box must be equal to the weight of the box for the system to remain in equilibrium. The force of the box's pull on the Earth is negligible and not necessary for calculations.
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So, I'm a bit confused... As an example, let's use a box resting on the floor:

I understand the first pair of forces well: Earth pushes the box down with force W, box pulls the Earth up with a force of magnitude W.

Now, the other pair of forces are the normal forces, which my teacher told me, is due to the fact that, when the box stands on the ground, it compresses the molecules right below, and therefore, the reaction force is repulsion from the molecules under the compressed ones.

What confuses me in my book is that it says that the ground pushes up on the box with a force N and that, therefore, the box reacts by pushing down. But, from my teacher explanation I thought that the box pushed the the ground with force N and the ground reacted. Both statements are correct?

My last doubt is: If the box is standing on the ground and not moving, than the force N upwards from the ground on the box must be equal to the box's weight, and, consequently, so that the Earth does not move, the force N exerted on the ground by the box must be equal the force of the box pulling up on the Earth W in magnitude, right?

Thanks and sorry for the long text, I just wanted to make sure I got my doubt across clearly.
 
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Dude, you're thinking too much. Box it pressing on the Earth with its weight that is mass of the box times gravity, the Earth is pushing back on the box with the normal force that equals the weight of the box. That's it.
 
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The pull of the box on the Earth is negligible and thus useless for any calculations that you can carry out, so don't worry about that.
 
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Hi ProPM! :wink:
ProPM said:
… Both statements are correct?

Both statements are correct. :smile:
My last doubt is: If the box is standing on the ground and not moving, than the force N upwards from the ground on the box must be equal to the box's weight, and, consequently, so that the Earth does not move, the force N exerted on the ground by the box must be equal the force of the box pulling up on the Earth W in magnitude, right?

Right. :smile:
 
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Thanks :smile:
 

FAQ: Newton's Third Law: Confused by Box & Ground Forces

What is Newton's Third Law?

Newton's Third Law states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means that when one object exerts a force on another object, the second object will exert an equal and opposite force back on the first object.

How does Newton's Third Law apply to objects on the ground?

When an object is on the ground, the force of gravity is pulling it towards the center of the Earth. However, the ground exerts an equal and opposite force on the object, preventing it from falling through the ground. This is an example of Newton's Third Law in action.

Can you explain how box and ground forces are related to Newton's Third Law?

In the case of a box on the ground, the weight of the box is pushing down on the ground, while the ground is pushing back up on the box with an equal force. This is an example of Newton's Third Law, where the action force is the weight of the box and the reaction force is the ground pushing back.

How does Newton's Third Law affect motion?

Newton's Third Law plays a crucial role in determining the motion of objects. When two objects interact, they exert equal and opposite forces on each other. This means that the net force on each object is equal and opposite, resulting in no change in their motion.

Can you provide some real-life examples of Newton's Third Law in action?

Sure, some common examples of Newton's Third Law include a swimmer pushing against the water to propel themselves forward, a rocket pushing against the ground to launch into space, and a person walking by pushing against the ground with their feet to move forward.

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