No epsilon or mu factor in the equations

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In summary, the conversation discusses the absence of epsilon and mu factors in equations in Gaussian units, causing confusion about the dependence of esu on the medium. It is clarified that in Gaussian units, D and E in a medium are related by the dimensionless permittivity, which is equal to the dielectric constant in SI units. This can be inconvenient when considering problems in different media.
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I seem to have a silly problem.In Gaussian units, there's no epsilon or mu factor in the equations, so esu must be medium dependant.Now if this is true, then I can "produce" or make "vanish" charges just by switching between media which obviously isn't true.So the mistake?
 
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"so esu must be medium dependant" Why?
In Gaussian units, D and E in a medium are related by D=\epsilon E.
This epsilon is called the permittivity of the material.
It is dimensionless, and is equal to the "dielectric constant" in SI.
There just is no 4piepsilonzero or muzero/4pi, since free space has unit permittivity and permeability.
 
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To clarify on clem's statements, we still retain the relative permittivity and permeability factors and drop the vacuum constants in favor of c (which sometimes can be also set to unity in some units). I find it a bit annoying myself because we often have the habit of assuming vacuum in our problems and thus drop out the appearance of \epsilon and \mu all together since they are now unity. However, this is annoying when you want to look at the problem in an arbtrary homogeneous medium because now you have removed the relationship with the permeability and permittivity from the final solution. So sometimes converting back from Gaussian to MKS can be difficult.
 
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As an aside, you might consider making your thread titles a wee bit more descriptive. When I saw "Gaussian", I though you might be asking about Gaussian probability distributions or Gaussian wave packets or some such thing. :smile:
 
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It is true that in Gaussian units, there is no epsilon or mu factor in the equations. However, this does not mean that the permittivity (epsilon) and permeability (mu) of a medium are not important. In fact, they play a crucial role in determining the behavior of electromagnetic fields in a given medium.

The equation for electric field in Gaussian units is given by E = Q/r^2, where Q is the charge and r is the distance. This equation does not explicitly include epsilon, but it is implicitly present in the value of Q. Similarly, the equation for magnetic field is B = mu*I/r, where I is the current and r is the distance. Again, while mu is not explicitly present, it is implicitly present in the value of I.

The mistake here is assuming that the absence of epsilon and mu in the equations means that they do not affect the behavior of charges and fields in different media. In reality, the permittivity and permeability of a medium determine how charges and fields interact with each other, and switching between media can indeed produce or make charges "vanish" due to the different values of epsilon and mu.

In conclusion, while the equations in Gaussian units may not explicitly include epsilon and mu, these factors are still crucial in determining the behavior of electromagnetic fields and should not be overlooked.
 

FAQ: No epsilon or mu factor in the equations

What is the significance of the absence of epsilon and mu factors in equations?

The absence of epsilon and mu factors in equations indicates that the equations do not take into account the effects of electric and magnetic fields on the surrounding medium. This can be due to the fact that the medium is considered to be non-dispersive and non-magnetic, or that the equations are simplified for a specific scenario.

Why are epsilon and mu factors important in electromagnetic equations?

Epsilon and mu factors play a crucial role in describing the behavior of electromagnetic waves in a medium. Epsilon (ε) represents the permittivity of a material, which indicates how easily electric fields can pass through it. Mu (μ) represents the permeability of a material, which indicates how easily magnetic fields can pass through it. These factors determine the propagation speed and direction of electromagnetic waves in a medium.

Can epsilon and mu factors be ignored in all electromagnetic equations?

No, epsilon and mu factors cannot be ignored in all electromagnetic equations. In some cases, the effects of electric and magnetic fields on the medium are significant and cannot be neglected. For example, in materials with high permittivity or permeability, these factors must be taken into account in order to accurately describe the behavior of electromagnetic waves.

What are some examples of equations that do not include epsilon and mu factors?

Maxwell's equations, which describe the fundamental laws of electromagnetism, do not include epsilon and mu factors. These equations can be simplified for specific scenarios, such as in free space or in non-dispersive and non-magnetic materials, where the effects of these factors can be ignored. Another example is the wave equation, which describes the propagation of electromagnetic waves in a vacuum.

Are there any alternative factors that can be used instead of epsilon and mu in equations?

Yes, in some cases, alternative factors can be used instead of epsilon and mu in equations. For example, in the study of optics, refractive index (n) is often used to describe the behavior of light in a medium. Refractive index is related to permittivity and permeability, but it is a simpler and more intuitive concept to work with in certain scenarios.

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