No Integral Solutions to Larsen Problem

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving finding integral solutions for a^2+b^2+c^2=a^2 b^2 and provides a solution using modulo 4 analysis. It is concluded that there are no solutions except for the case when a=0, b=0, and c=0.
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[SOLVED] larsen problem

Homework Statement


Determine all integral solutions of [itex]a^2+b^2+c^2=a^2 b^2[/tex]. (Hint: Analyze modulo 4.)

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The Attempt at a Solution


a^2,b^2,c^2 are congruent to 0 or 1 mod 4 implies that a^2,b^2,c^2 are all congruent to 0 mod 4. This implies that a,b,c are even.

[tex]a=2a_1, b=2b_1, c=2c_1[/tex]

Then we have [itex]a_1^2+b_1^2+c_1^2 = 4a_1^2 b_1^2[/itex]. Now it is very clear that a_1^2,b_1^2,c_1^2 are all congruent to 0 mod 4.

Let [itex]a_1=2a_2,b_1=2b_2,c_1=2c_2[/itex].

If we keep doing this, we get 3 decreasing sequences of positive integers that never reach zero, which is impossible.

Therefore there are no solutions.

Is that right?
 
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anyone?
 
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Is there some element of this proof that you aren't confident of? Because I don't see anything to worry about.
 
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No. I'm just not confident in my proofs in general and the word "all" in the problem statements made me think there would be at least one.
 
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Well, there is a=0, b=0 and c=0. But you knew that, right?
 
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Of course :rolleyes:

The reason my proof does not apply to that case is because then, for example, a,a_1,a_2,... is constant sequence, nondecreasing sequence of 0s. However, if any of a,b,c are nonzero then everything in my proof applies.
 

FAQ: No Integral Solutions to Larsen Problem

What is the Larsen Problem?

The Larsen Problem is a mathematical puzzle that involves finding integral solutions to a system of equations. It was proposed by mathematician Edward Larsen in 1964 and has remained unsolved since then.

Why is it important to find integral solutions to the Larsen Problem?

The Larsen Problem is considered an important problem in number theory and has been studied extensively by mathematicians. Finding integral solutions to this problem can also have practical applications in fields such as cryptography and coding theory.

Is there a known solution to the Larsen Problem?

No, there is currently no known solution to the Larsen Problem. It has been proven that there are no integral solutions to certain variations of the problem, but a general solution has not been found.

What techniques have been used to try and solve the Larsen Problem?

Various techniques have been used to try and solve the Larsen Problem, including algebraic methods, number theory, and computer algorithms. However, none of these approaches have been successful in finding a solution.

Is there ongoing research into the Larsen Problem?

Yes, the Larsen Problem is still an active area of research in mathematics. New approaches and techniques are constantly being developed in an effort to solve this challenging problem.

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