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The discussion revolves around solving the equations 9x - 10y + z = 8 and x + 8y - 9z = 10 to evaluate x² - 2y² + z². Participants agree on the solution, with contributions highlighting the effectiveness of inspection in problem-solving. Geometrically, the equations represent planes whose intersection forms a line described by the parametric equation (x,y,z) = (0,1,2) + t(1,1,1). This line lies on the conic x² - 2y² + z² = 2, which is identified as a circular hyperboloid of one sheet. The discussion emphasizes collaborative problem-solving and geometric interpretations.
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Let $x, y, z$ be real numbers such that $9x-10y+z=8$ and $x+8y-9z=10$.

Evaluate $x^2-2y^2+z^2$.
 
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Re: Evaluate x²-2y²+z²

My solution:

By inspection, we see $(x,y,z)=(2,1,0)$ is a solution to the two given equations. Hence:

$$x^2-2y^2+z^2=2$$
 
Re: Evaluate x²-2y²+z²

My answer agrees with that of MarkFL and my solution is below:

We are given:

(1) $$9x-10y+z=8$$

(2) $$x+8y-9z=10$$

To eliminate $z$, multiply (1) by 9 and add to (2) to get:

$$82x-82y=82$$

Which implies:

$$x=y+1$$

Substituting for $x$ in (1), we get:

$$9(y+1)-10y+z=8$$ or $$z-y=-1$$ so $$y-z=1$$

putting this in (2), we find no contradiction.

Thus, we have:

(3) $$x-y=1$$

(4) $$y-z=1$$

Adding (3) and (4) we get:

(5) $$x-z=2$$

Now, we may write:

$$x^2-2y^2+z^2=\left(x^2-y^2 \right)+\left(z^2-y^2 \right)=(x+y)(x-y)+(z-y)(z+ y)$$

Using (3) and (4), this becomes:

$$x^2-2y^2+z^2=(x+y)-(z+y)=x-z$$

Using (5), we finally conclude:

$$x^2-2y^2+z^2=2$$
 
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Re: Evaluate x²-2y²+z²

MarkFL said:
My solution:

By inspection, we see $(x,y,z)=(2,1,0)$ is a solution to the two given equations. Hence:

$$x^2-2y^2+z^2=2$$

Thanks for participating, MarkFL! I noticed sometimes solving a challenge problem by inspection can save us a lot of time and hassle! Bravo!:cool:

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kaliprasad said:
my ans agrees with markFL and solution is below

given
9x−10y+z=8 ...(1)
x+8y−9z=10... (2)

to eliminate z multiply (1) by 9 and add to (2)
82x - 82 y = 82

or x = y + 1

put it in (1) to get

9(y+1) - 10 y + z = 8 or z -y = - 1 so y -z = 1

putting in (2) it satisfies so no contradicyion

so x - y = 1 ..(3)
and y- z = 1 ...(4)

adding we get x- z = 2now x^2 - 2y^2 + z^2
= (x^2- y^2) + (z^2 -y^2)
= (x+y)(x-y) + (z-y)(z+ y)
= (x+y) - (z + y) as x - y = 1 and z - y = -1
= x - z
= 2

Hey kaliprasad, your method works well too! Well done!
 
Re: Evaluate x²-2y²+z²

[Not a solution, just a comment on the previous solutions.][sp]Geometrically, the equations $9x-10y+z=8$ and $x+8y-9z=10$ represent planes. Their intersection is the line with parametric equation $(x,y,z) = (0,1,2) + t(1,1,1).$ The whole of this line lies on the conic $x^2-2y^2+z^2 = 2.$ The conic is a ruled surface (in fact, a circular hyperboloid of one sheet), which can be entirely generated by a family of straight lines, as in the figure.

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Opalg said:
[Not a solution, just a comment on the previous solutions.][sp]Geometrically, the equations $9x-10y+z=8$ and $x+8y-9z=10$ represent planes. Their intersection is the line with parametric equation $(x,y,z) = (0,1,2) + t(1,1,1).$ The whole of this line lies on the conic $x^2-2y^2+z^2 = 2.$ The conic is a ruled surface (in fact, a circular hyperboloid of one sheet), which can be entirely generated by a family of straight lines, as in the figure.

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Hi Opalg, thank you so much for the insight and I find it interesting!:)
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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