Nonuniform Volume Charge in a Cylinder

In summary, the conversation revolved around finding the charge per unit length of an infinitely long cylinder with a given volume charge density. The conversation included discussions on using the definition of volume charge density to integrate and find the total charge, as well as finding the correct units for the final answer. The correct answer was given as Q = (rho0 * pi * h * a^2) / 3, with units of coulombs/meter. The conversation also highlighted the importance of understanding the meaning and context of symbols and equations being used in a problem.
  • #1
ur5pointos2sl
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The problem states:
"An infinitely long cylinder of radius a in free space is charged with a volume charge density p(r)=p0(a-r)/a where (0<=r<=a), where p0 is a constant and r the radial distance from the cylinder axis. Find the charge per unit length of the cylinder."

Q = ∫ p dv

My attempt:

dv = ∏(r^2)h dr

∫0 to a ( p0(a-r)/a) h∏r^2 dr

After integrating I get

Q = p0∏h * (a^3)/12

Could someone please confirm if this looks correct?

Thanks!
 
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  • #2
It's not. The units don't work out.
 
  • #3
vela said:
It's not. The units don't work out.

Thank you.

Should the units be C/m^3?

Is the integral set up correctly? If not any advice as to where I have gone wrong?
 
  • #4
Q is charge, right? So the units of Q should be simply coulombs. Try tracking down where the units went awry in your calculation. That's a good way to identify where the problem is.

Also, note that the question is asking for Q/L, where L is the length of some section of the cylinder. Your final answer should have units of coulombs/meter.
 
  • #5
vela said:
Q is charge, right? So the units of Q should be simply coulombs. Try tracking down where the units went awry in your calculation. That's a good way to identify where the problem is.

Also, note that the question is asking for Q/L, where L is the length of some section of the cylinder. Your final answer should have units of coulombs/meter.

Yes I know that Q is the charge but I can't seem to figure this out.

In the problem a volume charge density was given. The only definition I can find is:
p=dQ/dv. Knowing this I can integrate the volume charge density given to get the charge, however, I'm unsure how to come to charge per unit length.
 
  • #6
Hello ,
Please tell me what element are you integrating ?
 
  • #7
kushan said:
Hello ,
Please tell me what element are you integrating ?

Hi I was integrating the volume charge density:

dv = v dr

∫ p dv = ∫ p πr2l dr = p0∫((a-r)/a) * ∏r2l dr.

This should give me the charge I believe but I don't know how to get charge per unit length.

Thanks!

Edit: Integrating from 0 to a.
 
  • #8
ur5pointos2sl said:
dv = v dr
This is obviously wrong. The lefthand side has units of length3, since it's a volume, whereas the righthand side has units of length4.
 
  • #9
You need to take an infinitesimal element is such a way it is symmetric to the body , with a variable good enough to integrate .
 
  • #10
vela said:
This is obviously wrong. The lefthand side has units of length3, since it's a volume, whereas the righthand side has units of length4.

Alright. So the statement below should be the correct statement?
v= ∏r2h
dv = 2∏rh dr

I assumed I would just substitute this into the integral for dv and integrate with respect to r from 0 to a.

Doing this I get ∏ρ0ha2/3.
 
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  • #11
Good. So you have in a length h of the cylinder, a total charge ##Q=\frac{\rho_0 \pi h a^2}{3}##, so what's the charge per unit length?
 
  • #12
vela said:
Good. So you have in a length h of the cylinder, a total charge ##Q=\frac{\rho_0 \pi h a^2}{3}##, so what's the charge per unit length?

I may be over thinking this but the unit length is given by λ = E 2∏ ε0r?

Is there an easier way to get the charge per unit length? Thanks for your patience I am new to this.
 
  • #13
I kinda get the feeling you're just pushing symbols around without understanding what they mean. Say you're trying to explain your calculation to someone else, and he or she asks, "What does Q stand for?" And you say "charge." They respond by asking "charge of what specifically?" What's your answer?
 
  • #14
vela said:
I kinda get the feeling you're just pushing symbols around without understanding what they mean. Say you're trying to explain your calculation to someone else, and he or she asks, "What does Q stand for?" And you say "charge." They respond by asking "charge of what specifically?" What's your answer?

I would say your feeling is correct. I'm really am trying to understand but am having a hard time doing so.

The total charge over a length l?
 
  • #15
What is l the length of?
 

FAQ: Nonuniform Volume Charge in a Cylinder

What is a nonuniform volume charge in a cylinder?

A nonuniform volume charge in a cylinder refers to the distribution of electric charge within a cylindrical volume that is not evenly or uniformly distributed. This means that the amount of charge per unit volume varies at different points within the cylinder.

How is the charge distribution determined in a nonuniform volume charge cylinder?

The charge distribution in a nonuniform volume charge cylinder is determined by the charge density, which is the amount of charge per unit volume at any given point. This can be calculated by dividing the total charge by the volume of the cylinder.

What are some real-world examples of nonuniform volume charge in a cylinder?

One example is a charged cylindrical capacitor, where the charge is concentrated on the inner and outer surfaces of the cylinder. Another example is a charged wire or rod, where the charge is distributed along the length of the cylinder.

How does nonuniform volume charge affect the electric field in a cylinder?

Nonuniform volume charge in a cylinder can create an electric field that is also nonuniform. This means that the strength and direction of the electric field will vary at different points within the cylinder.

What is the mathematical formula for calculating the electric field in a nonuniform volume charge cylinder?

The electric field at any point within a nonuniform volume charge cylinder can be calculated using Gauss's law, which states that the electric field is proportional to the charge enclosed by a Gaussian surface surrounding the point of interest. The specific formula will depend on the geometry and distribution of the charge within the cylinder.

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