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North Korean football coach may loose his life
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In summary, a failed North Korean World Cup coach fears for his life after the team's poor performance. The source of this information is a Chinese trader, but it is not enough to prove that it actually happened. The North Korean government places a lot of pressure on their athletes to win in order to support their propaganda of being a superior nation. However, not all news on North Korea should be believed, as some may just be anti-propaganda. The country is still technically at war with South Korea, so it is important to not buy into the war propaganda. Kim Jong-un is the name of the coach, not the leader of North Korea, and his father Kim Jong-Il is known for encouraging xenophobia and ethnocentricism
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Why are you surprised?
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What's the source of this?
A chinese trader. Other newspapers are simply copying each other and some have only this trader told story. Not enough to prove that this happened.
A chinese trader. Other newspapers are simply copying each other and some have only this trader told story. Not enough to prove that this happened.
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Your analysis is correct, but isn't Kim Jong-un known primarily for his insanity? And his father.
My response the only couple of times that has happened has been "Feel free to step up and prove that you can do it better."
My response the only couple of times that has happened has been "Feel free to step up and prove that you can do it better."
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Vanadium 50 said:
I'm more surprised that the N. Koreans had hopes to win the FIFA worldcup.
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Well, when you got to go, you got to go.
Speaking of stupidity. He had his chance to defect while he was in South Africa. After a total, epic failure, he decided to go back to NK. Good game.
Speaking of stupidity. He had his chance to defect while he was in South Africa. After a total, epic failure, he decided to go back to NK. Good game.
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jobyts said:
The government teaches that Koreans are a superior people, and on that basis it's important for their propaganda that they win.
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Does the DPRK Govt throw a hissy fit every 4 yrs when their team fails to qualify? The one time in 40 years that they qualify, their coach gets serious hell?
Doesn't seem completely implausible to me, but I wouldn't yet put too much money on the story being accurate. I have yet to see a reputable news source report this - so it's likely not verifiable, but I guess that's the nature of most any story coming out of the DPRK.
Doesn't seem completely implausible to me, but I wouldn't yet put too much money on the story being accurate. I have yet to see a reputable news source report this - so it's likely not verifiable, but I guess that's the nature of most any story coming out of the DPRK.
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jobyts said:
Well, that's what you get when you take a game way too serious!
CRGreathouse said:
I think they're more into a mind manipulation games!
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jobyts said:
The North Korean team and coach will get soaked a bit for sure. But why do you think that this news report (which itself states that it is based on "unconfirmed sources") is actually literally true?
There have been plenty of such news resources on the DPRK that turned out false. Like resently the news item that hospitals in the DPRK were so bad and in lack of equipment that patients were operated on without anastetics.
That the DPRK has several shortages, is correct, but that news report was plainly wrong. There only "creditable" source were DPRK deflectors.
Not long after however the WHO (world health organisation) made a statement that made a more realistic approach. Their statement was that the health situation and organisation of the DPRK was at least better then in many other developing nations.
Just a reminder that not all news on DPRK is true.
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This could be just a piece of anti North Korea propaganda.
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It typically is. I saw another news report claiming that a coupld of DPRK soccer players were asking for asylumn or had moved out of their training camp, but then that news items showed up to be incorrect.
As for that, I really do doubt that DPRK had anything to do with the sinking of the S korean ship too. Well they found (after some weeks) the engine of the torpedo that supposedly had sunk the Cheonan S korean navy vessel, with the mark "number 1" written on it. It was claimed it matched the DPRK torpedo. Yet, on closer inspection the thing does not match, above that there was too much rost on it if it had been laying in the sea for just a couple of weeks, and at the time, the S Korean navy found no trace of the supposed submarine that should have launched the torpedo (although they had equipment to trace such a submarine), and the waters were in fact too shallow for any submarine to operate there. Moreover, the S korean ship was placing mines there (near an island that was very close to the coast of the DPRK), so it could as well have been an accident.
Technically seen the two countries are still at war, so don't buy any of the war propaganda.
In fact all that pointing to DPRK as the cuplit of the sinking of the Cheonan has in my opinion only one goal, to justify the presence of the US military in that region (the Okinawa US military base, which was supposed to be shut down by Japan, is not closing down because of this alleged crime of the DPRK).
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Danger said:
Kim Jong-un is the name of the trainer. Perhaps you mean Kim Jong-Il which is the head of the Korean Worker Party (the ruling party in the DPRK) and the head of the defense comittee 9a very important role, since the nation's slogan is: army first).
His (deceased) father Kim Il-Sung and founder of the DPRK is the eternal president, and some other guy (who's name I forgot, but his name is not who) is head of state.
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CRGreathouse said:
Xenophobia and ethnocentricism was already there long before north korea even existed, just the regime encourages it.
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heusdens said:
Source? For any of the things you've said? (I'm not saying that in a rude manner, I actually do mean I want to read the background on everything you're saying).
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Kim Jong-un is the name of Kim Jong-il's son.heusdens said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-un"
The trainer's name is Kim Jong-hun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-Hun"
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Pengwuino said:
I have some sources of this of course, but need to look them up. I will post them here.
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Jimmy Snyder said:
oh, sorry. You are right.
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Here are some news reports about the sinking of the S Korean vessel Cheonan.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/german-made-torpedo-sunk-south-korean-cheonan/ (willyloman.wordpress.com)
' Torpedo Evidence (photos)' (freepublic.com)
'The Sinking of the Cheonan and the Escalation of Tensions on the Korean Peninsula' (padresteve.wordpress.com)
Wikipedia article (en.wikipedie.org)
http://www.vkblog.nl/bericht/326357/False_Flag_Operation_%3A_Incident_Cheonan (vkblog.nl)
'Who Sank the Cheonan' (youtube.com)
'Korea False Flag' (youtube.com)
'The sinking of the Cheonan: Another Gulf of Tonkin incident' (gowans.wordpress.com)
The official reaction of the DPRK government is that it denies any involvement with the sinking of the Cheonan.
Several newsreport cast doubt on the official story by the JIG investigation.
Have we been lied to?
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/german-made-torpedo-sunk-south-korean-cheonan/ (willyloman.wordpress.com)
' Torpedo Evidence (photos)' (freepublic.com)
'The Sinking of the Cheonan and the Escalation of Tensions on the Korean Peninsula' (padresteve.wordpress.com)
Wikipedia article (en.wikipedie.org)
http://www.vkblog.nl/bericht/326357/False_Flag_Operation_%3A_Incident_Cheonan (vkblog.nl)
'Who Sank the Cheonan' (youtube.com)
'Korea False Flag' (youtube.com)
'The sinking of the Cheonan: Another Gulf of Tonkin incident' (gowans.wordpress.com)
The official reaction of the DPRK government is that it denies any involvement with the sinking of the Cheonan.
Several newsreport cast doubt on the official story by the JIG investigation.
Have we been lied to?
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If this was regular practice in the western world I would start watching sports.
FAQ: North Korean football coach may loose his life
What happened to the North Korean football coach?
According to reports, the North Korean football coach may face execution for his team's poor performance in the World Cup. It is speculated that he may have been sent to a labor camp or executed by firing squad.
Why is the North Korean government punishing the football coach?
The North Korean government sees success in international sports as a reflection of the country's overall strength and political regime. Therefore, they hold their athletes and coaches to a high standard and any failure is seen as a threat to their image.
Is this the first time a coach has been punished for poor performance in North Korea?
No, this is not the first time a coach has been punished for poor performance in North Korea. In 2010, the national team's coach was reportedly publicly shamed and forced to become a builder after their poor performance in the World Cup that year.
Is it common for athletes and coaches to face severe punishment in North Korea?
Yes, it is not uncommon for athletes and coaches in North Korea to face severe punishment for not meeting expectations. In addition to execution or labor camps, they may also be subjected to public humiliation and forced to re-educate themselves in a political ideology.
What can be done to help the North Korean football coach?
Unfortunately, there is not much that can be done to help the North Korean football coach. The decision lies solely with the North Korean government and their strict political regime. However, international pressure and attention to this issue may help bring awareness to the harsh realities faced by athletes and coaches in North Korea.