Notation Question - Expressing Rate of Change w/o Introducing Variable

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In summary, the conversation revolves around finding a way to express the rate of change of an expression, specifically \frac{{\partial z}}{{\partial x}}, without introducing a new variable z. Various notations were suggested, including \frac{\partial f}{\partial x} and \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x,g), but it was ultimately concluded that the best notation would be \frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial x}} +\frac{\partial f}{\partial g}\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}.
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Hi All,

I have a question about notation.

Suppose I have an expression:

[tex]f(x,g(x,y))[/tex]

I would like to know how to express (not calculate) the rate of change of the above expression with regards to x.

I can always express it like this:

Let [tex]z(x,y) = f(x,g(x,y))[/tex]. Rate of change is [tex]\frac{{\partial z}}{{\partial x}}[/tex].

But that is awkward. Is there any way to express [tex]\frac{{\partial z}}{{\partial x}}[/tex] without having to introduce a variable z (i.e. using only variables and function names f,g,x,y)?

Thanks,
GZ
 
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what's wrong with partial f/ partial x ?

ahh i see

what you want is

[tex] \frac{\partial f\big|_{y=g}}{\partial x}[/tex]

or if you feel there might be ambiguity about whether the derivative is evaluated at g or f

[tex] \frac{\partial (f\big|_{y=g})}{\partial x}[/tex]

honestly though

[tex] \frac{\partial }{\partial x} f(x,g)[/tex] is probably best
 
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Hi ice109,

Thank you for your response.

What I really want is the quantity [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial f}{\partial g}\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}[/tex].

[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}[/tex] does not reflect the second term above.

But do I have to introduce a new variable z in order to express this clearly? Or is there a better way?


I have never see the notation [tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x,g)[/tex] before. Does it equal [tex]\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial x}} +\frac{\partial f}{\partial g}\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}[/tex]?

Thanks,
gz
 
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FAQ: Notation Question - Expressing Rate of Change w/o Introducing Variable

What is notation in mathematics?

Notation in mathematics refers to the symbols and conventions used to represent mathematical concepts and operations. It allows for concise and consistent communication of mathematical ideas.

What is rate of change?

Rate of change is a measure of how one quantity is changing with respect to another quantity. It is often represented by the symbol "m" and is calculated by dividing the change in the dependent variable by the change in the independent variable.

How do you express rate of change without introducing a variable?

To express rate of change without introducing a variable, you can use the slope formula, which is (change in y)/(change in x). This allows you to calculate the rate of change using the actual values of the dependent and independent variables without assigning them specific names or symbols.

What is the purpose of expressing rate of change without introducing a variable?

The purpose of expressing rate of change without introducing a variable is to have a more general and flexible representation of the concept. It allows for easier comparison and analysis of different rates of change without being limited by specific variables.

Can notation for rate of change vary in different mathematical contexts?

Yes, notation for rate of change can vary in different mathematical contexts. For example, in calculus, rate of change is often represented by "dy/dx" while in physics it may be represented by "v" for velocity. It is important to understand the context and meaning behind the notation being used in order to correctly interpret and apply it.

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