Observing the Universe at Relativistic Speeds: Confusion and Curiosity

In summary: So in summary, if one were to observe the universe from a relativistically moving planet, they would see the same events as those on earth, but they would disagree on when the events took place. The faster the planet moves, the faster the universe appears to expand. From this, it can be assumed that there is no real gravitational field in the universe. The solution to this problem has been discussed and is a plane gravitational wave.
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ExecNight
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If Big Bang is the beginning of the relevant time. What would it be like to be observing the universe on the surface of a planet that has a relativistic speed close to c in reference to earth.

- How would that person observe the universe and the events taking place in it?

-Is space-time a whole in the universe? Would reaching relativistic c in reference to the Earth cause a relativistic mass going towards infinity. Will this cause a universal space-time curve, or a relative one?

If space-time curves can be relative, what does this mean?

I am quite confused already asking too many questions. :)
Thanks.
 
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ExecNight said:
If Big Bang is the beginning of the relevant time. What would it be like to be observing the universe on the surface of a planet that has a relativistic speed close to c in reference to earth.



- How would that person observe the universe and the events taking place in it?



-Is space-time a whole in the universe? Would reaching relativistic c in reference to the Earth cause a relativistic mass going towards infinity. Will this cause a universal space-time curve, or a relative one?



If space-time curves can be relative, what does this mean?


I am quite confused already asking too many questions. :)
Thanks.

A person on the planet moving close to c would see the events the same as the person on earth. They would simply disagree on when the events took place
 
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Thank you.

I think your first sentence contradicts the later. In that knowledge i have asked my questions :)

They would disagree on the amount of speed the universe is expanding too. Also they would disagree on every galaxy's position and every galaxy's distance between each other. Those people need to find something they can agree on really..
 
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ExecNight said:
Thank you.

I think your first sentence contradicts the later. In that knowledge i have asked my questions :)

They would disagree on the amount of speed the universe is expanding too. Also they would disagree on every galaxy's position and every galaxy's distance between each other. Those people need to find something they can agree on really..

It's the only question I kinda understood.

And whey I said 'see' I literally meant 'see'. For example, the would both see an apple fall, but they would disagree on when the apple fell.
 
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Oh, i see.

But how are they both going to identify a reference apple? a reference planet? a reference galaxy?

And in your example i am not questioning these people's ability to communicate or see the said apple, etc.. They can hear each other loud and clear! But still i can't see how they can identify same object and agree on it that it is the same object :)

See i am not even putting in the fact that you don't know Earth's vectoral speed in the universe, and another planet at c in reference to earth. Practically can not remain at that speed all the time it will keep experiencing vectoral slowing down and accelerating through the process making the time dilation and length contraction differences changing at random intervals. And i am talking about big differences.

So such objects in the universe will give you a redshift. But the amount of the redshifting will change randomly.

Well, ok, not randomly it can be calculated. Good luck with that though ;)
 
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The visual appearance of the universe from a relativistically moving ship is discussed at :

http://www.exo.net/~pauld/stars/PD_images_relativ.html

there's a link to a peer-reviewed paper at the URL above (the paper is written by the website author).

As far as the gravitational field of a rapidly moving object goes, it gets complicated. The closest analogy is to the electric field of a rapidly moving charge, where the electric field gets crushed into a plane wave. Imagining that the gravity gets crushed in a similar manner is oversimplified, but I've found it's not too helpful to point out in this circumstance that there's really no such thing as a gravitational field. And the solution has been discussed in the literature, and it is a plane gravitational wave...

For the gory details, look up the Aichelburg-Sexl solution.

http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRD/v64/i4/e044022
or on arxiv

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0110032
 
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Well the picture clearly shows me that, if i accelerate enough i will see the collective universe in front of me. Which is what i was talking about with that twin paradox on the other topic.

From that point on, saying i am not affected by their collective gravitational force would be absurd. Anyway i won't go into there.

The same also tells me that, if i reached "c" the universe in front of me would become a singularity point. And say i am magically slowing down slowly. Then i would see a singularity expanding, picture it in your mind. Expanding singularity, forming galaxies slowly and moving towards you or away from you. The faster you slow down, the faster the singularity in front of you will expand.

Does this mean if i do the opposite will the universe in front of me and behind me would stop redshifting or blueshifting at the relative speed of x when i take the reference frame as the spaceship that is going with c? How awesome would that be :)

Really breathtaking how they are all actually already there. Its just an optical illusion or? :)

I don't want to go into the gory parts. I like simple and i like razors.
 

FAQ: Observing the Universe at Relativistic Speeds: Confusion and Curiosity

What is meant by observing the universe at relativistic speeds?

Observing the universe at relativistic speeds refers to studying objects in the universe that are moving at speeds close to the speed of light, which is approximately 299,792,458 meters per second. This can result in time dilation and other effects predicted by Einstein's theory of relativity.

How do scientists observe objects at such high speeds?

Scientists use various tools and techniques, such as telescopes and satellites, to observe objects in the universe at relativistic speeds. They also use mathematical models and computer simulations to analyze the data collected from these observations.

What are some of the challenges of observing the universe at relativistic speeds?

One of the main challenges is the limited speed of light, which means that observations can only be made from a certain distance. Additionally, objects moving at relativistic speeds can appear distorted and can emit different types of radiation, making it difficult to accurately measure their properties.

What is the significance of studying objects at relativistic speeds?

Studying objects at relativistic speeds can provide valuable insights into the laws of physics and the nature of the universe. It can also help us understand how objects behave under extreme conditions and how gravity affects the motion of objects.

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Studying objects at relativistic speeds can have practical applications in fields such as astrophysics, cosmology, and aerospace engineering. It can also inform the development of technologies related to space travel and communication. Additionally, understanding the effects of relativistic speeds can have implications for our understanding of time and space.

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