Obtain an equation of the plane in the form ##px+qy+rz=d##

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The solution is here;
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Now to my comments,
From literature, the cross product of two vectors results into a vector in the same dimension. A pointer to me as i did not know the first step. With that in mind and using cross product, i have

##(1-1)i - (-1-1)j+(1+1)k =0i+2j +2k## as shown in ms attachment.

Now the second part is the reason of this post. My take on that is,

##r=(λ +μ)i + (μ-4-λ)j + (λ-3-μ)k =x+y+z##

Now

##λ +μ = 0, ⇒ λ = -μ##

Therefore,
##μ-4+μ=y##
##-μ-3-μ=z##

on adding the above two equations,

##-4+-3=y+z##
##-7=y+z##

unless there is a better approach or simpler...have a great day.
 
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The general form of the equation for a plane is
$$
\vec n \cdot \vec r = C,
$$
where ##C## is a constant and ##\vec n## is normal to the plane. You have first found ##\vec n## so that is fine, but after that you are inserting the general form of any parametrised point on the plane. This is unnecessarily complicated. You know that the expression above should equal the same constant ##C## regardless of the point so using a single point in the plane will give you ##C##. The easiest is to just take the point corresponding to ##\mu =\lambda = 0##, i.e., ##\vec r = -4\hat j - 3\hat k##. Doing so with ##\vec n = \hat j + \hat k## results in
$$
C = -4 \cdot 1 - 3 \cdot 1 = -7
$$
and therefore
$$
\vec n \cdot \vec r = y + z = -7
$$
 
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Also note that there is no requirement that ##\mu + \lambda = 0##, but this just describes a line in the plane. The values of ##\mu## and ##\lambda## are arbitrary, but the point is that you will get the same constant ##C## regardless of the values of ##\mu## and ##\lambda##.
 
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This is also related part of question,

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The solution is here - quite clear to me

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but nothing wrong with me having,
##y+z-7=0##
##-5x+3y+5z-4=0##

setting ##x=0## gives

##y=-\dfrac{39}{2}## and ##z=\dfrac{25}{2}##

Thus,

##r+λ(n_1 ×n_2) = (0, -19.5, 12.5) +λ(2,-5,5)##
 
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Sure, it is just a different parametrisation. Setting ##\lambda = \lambda' - 7/2## should give you the parametrisation given in the answer key.
 
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This last part is also related to the question- hmmmm i have no idea how they did this but i will still share my thoughts.

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Mythoughts,

Distance between a point and a plane is given by,

##D=\dfrac{|ax_0 +by_o+cz_0 +d|}{\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}=\sqrt{2}##

Now could they have used ,

##x=a +λ (1-b-a)##

##y=a+λ(b-a)##

##z=(a-7)+λ(b-a-7)##

when ##λ=0## I will then have,

##D=\dfrac{|0 +a+a-7+7|}{|\sqrt{0^2+1^2+1^2}|}=\sqrt{2}##

If that is the case then its time for me to have hot coffee! :cool:
 

FAQ: Obtain an equation of the plane in the form ##px+qy+rz=d##

What is the general form of the equation of a plane?

The general form of the equation of a plane in three-dimensional space is given by the equation \( px + qy + rz = d \), where \( p \), \( q \), and \( r \) are the coefficients that represent the normal vector to the plane, and \( d \) is a constant that determines the plane's position in space.

How do I find the coefficients \( p \), \( q \), and \( r \)?

The coefficients \( p \), \( q \), and \( r \) are derived from the normal vector to the plane. If you have two vectors that lie on the plane or a point on the plane and a normal vector, you can use the components of the normal vector directly as \( p \), \( q \), and \( r \).

What information do I need to obtain the equation of a plane?

To obtain the equation of a plane, you need either a point on the plane and a normal vector or three non-collinear points that lie on the plane. From this information, you can derive the equation in the form \( px + qy + rz = d \).

Can you provide an example of how to derive the equation of a plane?

Sure! Suppose you have a point \( A(1, 2, 3) \) and a normal vector \( \vec{n} = (4, 5, 6) \). The equation of the plane can be derived by substituting the point into the equation format: \( 4(x - 1) + 5(y - 2) + 6(z - 3) = 0 \). Simplifying this gives the equation \( 4x + 5y + 6z = 32 \), which is in the desired form \( px + qy + rz = d \).

How can I convert the equation of a plane from another form to \( px + qy + rz = d \)?

To convert an equation from another form, such as the point-normal form or intercept form, you can expand and rearrange the terms to isolate the variables \( x \), \( y \), and \( z \) on one side of the equation. Make sure to collect like terms and express the equation in the standard form \( px + qy + rz = d \) by ensuring all terms involving variables are on one side and the constant is on the other.

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