Obtain y=mx+b equation for Atwood's Pulley lab.

In summary: Therefore, in summary, the validity of Equation (1) for Atwood's pulley can be investigated by creating a linear graph with the acceleration as the dependent variable (y) and the mass difference (m1-m2) as the independent variable (x). The slope (m) of the graph represents the gravitational acceleration (g), while the y-intercept (b) is zero, indicating that there is no initial velocity in the system. This can be verified by substituting values for the variables and graphing the equation.
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Homework Statement


How can the validity of Equation (1) for Atwood's pulley be investigated by means of a linear graph? What quantities would the slope m and intercept b represent here?

Homework Equations


Equation (1):http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1916/me4km8.jpg

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the value for (m1+m2) never varies, It is a constant in this equation. The term g is also a constant. a and (m1-m2) are variables. So obviously I have to manipulate this equation into the y=mx+b form, with m and b as constants and x and y as variables, but for some reason I don't know how to approach it. Does the answer lie in substituting values for one of the variables from another formula?
Since a=2h[tex]^{2}[/tex]:
2h[tex]^{2}[/tex] = (m1 - m2)g/(m1 + m2) . . . (I can't seem to figure out subscripts in the latex thing. They always seem to come out as superscripts).
But then I have just said that a=g, which doesn't help me. I think part of the problem is that having the same terms (the masses) on either side is what is confusing me here. I'm not used to having to manipulate an equation like this. I know it's probably simple but I'm stumped. I'd be very grateful for even a nudge in the right direction.
 
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Okay, so I've been thinking about this some more... Since I know that (m1+m2) is constant and (m1-m2) is variable, with the acceleration being the responding variable, the equation for acceleration:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5835/mejs3.jpg
Is already in the y=mx+b form, with y=a, m=g, x=(m1-m2)/(m1 + m2), and b=0. I don't know why that was so complicated last night... If x(the mass difference) is zero, the acceleration must also be, so there is no intercept, and I verified that the slope was 9.8 by making a table and graphing it. So is that all there is to it? Someone could at least post telling me whether I have actually answered the question or not...
 
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Vasili said:
Okay, so I've been thinking about this some more... Since I know that (m1+m2) is constant and (m1-m2) is variable, with the acceleration being the responding variable, the equation for acceleration:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5835/mejs3.jpg
Is already in the y=mx+b form, with y=a, m=g, x=(m1-m2)/(m1 + m2), and b=0. I don't know why that was so complicated last night... If x(the mass difference) is zero, the acceleration must also be, so there is no intercept, and I verified that the slope was 9.8 by making a table and graphing it. So is that all there is to it? Someone could at least post telling me whether I have actually answered the question or not...
I don't know why you say m1 - m2 is variable, but m1 + m2 is constant? They are both variable, which you seem to have corrected in your mx +b form. Only g is constant (that's the 'm' in front of the 'x'), and the 'a' (called y) and (m1-m2/(m1+m2) (called 'x') are both variable. So youare correct that the slope is 'g'. (However , note that the graph stops abruptly when x>1 or x<-1).
 
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PhanthomJay said:
I don't know why you say m1 - m2 is variable, but m1 + m2 is constant? They are both variable, which you seem to have corrected in your mx +b form. Only g is constant (that's the 'm' in front of the 'x'), and the 'a' (called y) and (m1-m2/(m1+m2) (called 'x') are both variable. So youare correct that the slope is 'g'. (However , note that the graph stops abruptly when x>1 or x<-1).

(m1 + m2) is constant because the total mass is always the same number (mass removed from one mass is added to the other mass in the experiment). The ratio (m1-m2) of masses is what is manipulated in the experiment, and is not constant. Unless I misunderstand something. Thank you for the post, though.
 
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Ok I agree with you Vasili that (m1 + m2) is constant because as you said the total mass of the system does not change. I'm looking at slope and the y-int... I agree also that m=9.81 but why does b=0? I keep thinking that b is initial velocity but if it is initial velocity then the graph is no longer linear... any help here on what b is and why it is zero?
 
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youngblood21 said:
Ok I agree with you Vasili that (m1 + m2) is constant because as you said the total mass of the system does not change. I'm looking at slope and the y-int... I agree also that m=9.81 but why does b=0? I keep thinking that b is initial velocity but if it is initial velocity then the graph is no longer linear... any help here on what b is and why it is zero?

B is zero because if the x variable (m1-m2) is zero (both masses are the same), then the system will not accelerate in either direction, so the acceleration (y variable) equals zero. Which also means that the intercept is zero.
 

FAQ: Obtain y=mx+b equation for Atwood's Pulley lab.

What is the purpose of the Atwood's Pulley lab?

The purpose of the Atwood's Pulley lab is to explore the relationship between the mass and acceleration of objects in a pulley system. This experiment helps to demonstrate the principles of Newton's Second Law of Motion and the concept of equilibrium.

What materials are needed for the Atwood's Pulley lab?

The materials needed for this lab typically include a pulley system, two masses of different weights, a timer or stopwatch, and a measuring device such as a ruler or meter stick. Other optional materials may include a data collection device and graphing software.

How do you set up the Atwood's Pulley lab?

To set up the Atwood's Pulley lab, first attach the pulley to a stable surface. Then, thread a string through the pulley and attach one of the masses to each end of the string. Make sure the string is taut and the masses are hanging freely. Finally, measure the distance between the pulley and the floor to use as the starting point for the falling mass.

What data should be collected during the Atwood's Pulley lab?

The data that should be collected during the Atwood's Pulley lab includes the masses of the objects, the distance between the pulley and the floor, and the time it takes for the objects to reach the floor. This data will be used to calculate the acceleration and determine the relationship between the mass and acceleration.

How do you obtain the y=mx+b equation for the Atwood's Pulley lab?

To obtain the y=mx+b equation for the Atwood's Pulley lab, first plot the data on a graph with the mass on the x-axis and the acceleration on the y-axis. Then, use the slope formula (m = Δy/Δx) to calculate the slope of the line. The slope represents the acceleration due to gravity (g). Finally, use the y-intercept (b) to determine the initial velocity of the falling mass. The equation will be in the form of y = mx + b, with m representing g and b representing the initial velocity.

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