On determining the -3dB point in an RLC circuit

In summary, you are trying to find a specific frequency where the magnitude of your response function is -3 dB. You attempt to solve for the omega, but are having difficulty. You may be able to find the magnitude of the response function by plugging in real or imaginary values for the components.
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Homework Statement


OK, I have the response function for a notch filter, and I want to find out what the frequency where it has the -3dB response.

Homework Equations


[tex]H(\omega) = \frac{1-\omega^2LC}{1-\omega^2LC+i\omega RC}[/tex]

This is my response function. My [itex]\omega_0 = \frac{1}{\sqrt{LC}}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


OK, so I figure that what I am looking for is where [itex]20\log_{10}(H(\omega)) = -3[/itex]. This should be simple enough, but I am having some difficulty and I suspect I am messing up something stupid and obvious.

I am pretty sure that all I need is to have [tex]H(\omega) = \frac{1-\omega^2LC}{1-\omega^2LC+i\omega RC} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]. But it's getting there that's the problem and figuring out what my omega ought to be. I tried simply saying that the absolute value of my response function squared should be 1/2, and thereby getting rid of the imaginary component. This is kind of a silly algebra question I suppose, I feel like there is some ridiculously simple thing I am not seeing here.

Looking at it I need something where plugging in [itex]i \omega RC = i \frac{1}{\sqrt{LC}} RC[/itex] yields a square root of 2, or plugging in R/L as my change in omega and multiplying things out, but I feel like I am missing something even simpler than that. Anyhow, any help is appreciated.
 
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You were on the right track before. It's the magnitude of the transfer function that you want to set to ##1/\sqrt{2}##. So first you'll need to deal with obtaining the magnitude expression.

If it's a notch filter you should expect to find more than one value of ##\omega## that yields a -3 dB gain.
 
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OK, and it should be no problem if I get imaginary numbers for omega, though I am still having a little trouble solving the expression. My instinct is to plug in omega +/- R/L and see what that gets me. Is that the right Idea? (delta-omega is R/L IIRC)
 
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I think you you find two real roots to the resulting expression (a notch has two sides after all). There may be another pair of imaginary roots that can be ignored. Were you given actual values for the components?

You'll probably find a quartic expression with ##\omega^4## and ##\omega^2## terms. A substitution will make that a quadratic.

Unless you know something in particular about the notch filter in question, plugging in likely values based on combinations of components is unlikely to be fruitful.
 
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no actual values, i think we're just supposed to say what the omega is for the -3dB spots.
 

FAQ: On determining the -3dB point in an RLC circuit

1. What is the -3dB point in an RLC circuit?

The -3dB point, also known as the cutoff frequency, is a measure of the frequency at which the output power of an RLC circuit is reduced by 3 decibels (dB) compared to the input power.

2. How is the -3dB point determined in an RLC circuit?

The -3dB point can be determined by using the transfer function of the circuit, which is the ratio of the output voltage to the input voltage. The frequency at which the transfer function is equal to 0.707 (or -3dB) is the -3dB point.

3. What factors can affect the -3dB point in an RLC circuit?

The -3dB point can be affected by the values of the resistance, inductance, and capacitance in the circuit. Changes in these values can shift the -3dB point to a different frequency.

4. Why is the -3dB point important in an RLC circuit?

The -3dB point is important because it represents the bandwidth of the circuit, or the range of frequencies over which the circuit can effectively transmit signals. It is also used to determine the frequency response of the circuit.

5. How can the -3dB point be used in practical applications?

The -3dB point can be used to design filters for specific frequencies, such as low-pass, high-pass, and band-pass filters. It can also be used to analyze and optimize the performance of electronic circuits.

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