On the group notation of the 1975 Wu-Yang paper

In summary, the paper discusses the group notation used in the 1975 Wu-Yang paper, which introduced a new framework for understanding gauge theories in particle physics. The authors analyze the implications of this notation for the representation of symmetries and interactions, highlighting its significance in formulating quantum field theories. They also explore the mathematical structure behind the notation and its application in various physical contexts, emphasizing its role in advancing the theoretical understanding of fundamental forces.
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What means the group subindex in the notation of the Wu–Yang paper
In the 1975 Wu–Yang paper on electromagnetism=fiber bundle theory Table 1: https://journals.aps.org/prd/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevD.12.3845

Wu & Yang use the notation ##\mathrm{U}_1(1)## for the bundle of electromagnetism and ##\mathrm{SU}_2## for the isospin gauge field.
I am unfamiliar with this groups, unless we take the subindices, for example what the subindex 1 in ##\mathrm{U}_1(1)## means? Same for ##\mathrm{SU}_2## ?
 
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They simply extend the discussion to non-Abelian gauge groups. They write ##\mathrm{U}_1## instead of ##\mathrm{U}(1)##. It's just their notation. ##\mathrm{U}(1)## is the symmetry of wave functions under multiplying the wave function with a phase factor. Electrodynamics occurs when gauging this global symmetry to make it a "local symmetry", while one must be somewhat careful when calling such a "gauge symmetry" a symmetry, but that's another story. The same holds for ##\mathrm{SU}_2## vs. ##\mathrm{SU}(2)## here the gauged symmetry is isospin symmetry. That's only a toy model. In the Standard Model you rather have ##\mathrm{SU}(3)## as the gauge group of Quantum Chromodynamics describing the Strong Interactions and ##\mathrm{SU}(2) \times \mathrm{U}(1)##, describing the strong and electromagnetic interactions (gauging the weak-isospin and weak-hypercharge symmetry and then "Higgsing" it to the electromagnetic ##\mathrm{U}(1)##, i.e., getting the three W- and Z-gauge bosons massive and keeping the photon massless, without distroying the local gauge symmetry underlying the electroweak sector of the Standard Model.
 
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TL;DR Summary: What means the group subindex in the notation of the Wu–Yang paper

In the 1975 Wu–Yang paper on electromagnetism=fiber bundle theory Table 1: https://journals.aps.org/prd/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevD.12.3845
TIL: My university library has cancelled the subscription to APS jounals …
 
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They simply extend the discussion to non-Abelian gauge groups. They write U1 instead of U(1).
But that is not what they do, the do not write ##\mathrm U_1## or ##\mathrm U(1)## they write ##\mathrm U_1(1)## does having two 1s imply something else?
 
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TIL: My university library has cancelled the subscription to APS jounals …
Ok, I was wrong. Just not connected to OpenAthens, had to access via the library homepage.

Generally, they seem to be using ##U_1## and ##SU_2## as described by @vanhees71 but then there is this table:
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I did not find the notation in other places but the look I gave was very cursory.
 
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Ok, I was wrong. Just not connected to OpenAthens, had to access via the library homepage.

Generally, they seem to be using ##U_1## and ##SU_2## as described by @vanhees71 but then there is this table:

I did not find the notation in other places but the look I gave was very cursory.
I did not find it elsewhere either they also write ##\mathrm{SO}_3##. In a precedent paper by Yang, cited in the above he uses ##\mathrm U(1)## without subindex :https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.33.445
 
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May be it is a misprint.
 
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martinbn said:
May be it is a misprint.
You are probably right, I was thinking that it was some special group or notation for bundles. Thanks!
 
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When considering whether this might be a misprint, it is worth noting that scientific journal typesetting was pretty primitive in 1975.

It had to be done analog style, because advanced word processing computers weren't widely available. Lots of physicists at that time didn't know how to type at all, and relied upon their department secretaries or a university typing pool for that, and those (invariable female) administrative aides, who had no formal training in graduate level physics or mathematics, typed the final version of the article from the physicists' handwritten manuscripts, which were written using pens or mechanical pencils.

A significant subset of the charts and illustrations were also handwritten (either free hand, or drawn with straight edges and compasses and protractors) in that era, and were literally cut and pasted into the final draft. And, it was also around the time that the transition from slide rules to calculators was just reaching the tipping point. Many university computers in 1975 still had punchcard data entry, although keyboards at dumb terminals connected to mainframe computers were starting to become more common then.

My father was an engineering professor at Georgia Tech in 1975. He didn't have access to a mainframe with a dumb terminal with a keyboard until 1977 (at a new university with more resources to spend on computers), and he didn't have a computer of his own to use in his office or at home until 1983. He learned to type on his own at that point (at the same time I did as a middle school aged kid), because men pursuing careers in science and engineering weren't taught to type in his generation.
 
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In 1975 you would have your secretary type out your paper, equations and all, on an IBM Selectric, and then the journal would use a Monotype machine to do the final formatting. I wouldn't say "primitive" so much as "specialized". And "expensive" - it took a minimum of three different people.

Xerox would be happy to sell - actually, lease, as they sold very little - a graphics printer in the 1970s, although the Dover in the early 80s was a huge step forward.
 
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Aside of misprinting problems the (1) could be a reference to either a equation or reference but seems unlikely.
 
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FAQ: On the group notation of the 1975 Wu-Yang paper

What is the main focus of the 1975 Wu-Yang paper?

The main focus of the 1975 Wu-Yang paper is to explore the mathematical structure and implications of gauge theories, particularly in the context of non-Abelian gauge fields. The paper delves into the use of group theory to describe the symmetries and properties of these fields.

Why is group notation important in the context of gauge theories?

Group notation is crucial in gauge theories because it provides a systematic way to describe the symmetries of the fields involved. These symmetries are often represented by Lie groups, and understanding their properties helps in formulating the theories and solving related equations. Group notation simplifies the representation and manipulation of these symmetries.

What are the key concepts introduced in the Wu-Yang paper?

The Wu-Yang paper introduces several key concepts, including the use of non-Abelian gauge fields, the application of group theory to describe gauge symmetries, and the mathematical formalism required to analyze these fields. It also discusses the implications of these symmetries for the physical properties of the fields and potential solutions to the equations governing them.

How does the Wu-Yang paper contribute to the understanding of non-Abelian gauge fields?

The Wu-Yang paper contributes to the understanding of non-Abelian gauge fields by providing a detailed mathematical framework for their analysis. It uses group theory to describe the symmetries of these fields, which are more complex than those of Abelian fields. This framework helps in understanding the behavior of non-Abelian gauge fields and their interactions.

What are the implications of the Wu-Yang paper for modern theoretical physics?

The implications of the Wu-Yang paper for modern theoretical physics are significant, as it lays the groundwork for many developments in gauge theories and particle physics. The concepts and methods introduced in the paper have been instrumental in the development of the Standard Model of particle physics and continue to influence research in quantum field theory and beyond.

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