Only one type of elementary electric charge?

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What if were there a second type of elementary charge ?
Is there only one type of elementary charge? The type of elemental charge that appears on particles such as electron, proton, etc. It is well known. Could there be another different type that we don't know yet?
 
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south said:
TL;DR Summary: What if were there a second type of elementary charge ?

Is there only one type of elementary charge?
Yes,
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Could there be another different type that we don't know yet?
What does that mean? Can you write down an equation? (If not, that says something about your question)
 
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south said:
TL;DR Summary: What if were there a second type of elementary charge ?

Is there only one type of elementary charge? The type of elemental charge that appears on particles such as electron, proton, etc. It is well known. Could there be another different type that we don't know yet?
Read about quarks here.
 
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south said:
TL;DR Summary: What if were there a second type of elementary charge ?

Is there only one type of elementary charge? The type of elemental charge that appears on particles such as electron, proton, etc. It is well known. Could there be another different type that we don't know yet?
In the quark model, electric charge is not the only elementary one. There is also color charge, which is a property of quarks, as well as other properties such isospin and strangeness etc.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Yes,

What does that mean? Can you write down an equation? (If not, that says something about your question)
I can't mathematically formulate the core of my question. I can only comment on the reason for my question. I refer this to the vacuum. Two photons collide with each other under suitable conditions and a welectron-positron pair is the result of the collision.

Instead of bouncing one against the other, as two billiard balls would do, for example, the photons cause an event that conserves energy, the moment, etc., while transforming the traveling EM field (of the photons) into a pair of objects that have the possibility of existing without traveling with speed C, including speeds as small as we can imagine.

Each object in the formed pair has an electric charge. If the particles in the virtual particle hotbed had no opportunity to absorb the energy of photons to become real particles or to transfer charge to the two objects that form in the photon collision, then the charge on those objects cannot come from the virtual quantum hotbed particles. Obviously I don't know what the real case is, whether the particles in the boiler have opportunity or not.

My question is equivalent to asking what happens if the only feasible possibility was that the charge came from the photons. Photons cannot have the type of electronic charge, since they cannot have a mass that makes it impossible to travel to C. If they had a charge, it would be of a different type than the electronic charge. The latter is charge that appears in material particles (yes, I can qualify them). The charge of the photons would be charge that appears in a wave.
 
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PeroK said:
In the quark model, electric charge is not the only elementary one. There is also color charge, which is a property of quarks, as well as other properties such isospin and strangeness etc.
Thank you PeroK for assisting me.I refer the question to two types of electrodynamic charging, not including chromodynamic properties.
 
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kuruman said:
Read about quarks here.
Thank you very much kuruman
 
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south said:
My question is equivalent to asking what happens if the only feasible possibility was that the charge came from the photons. Photons cannot have the type of electronic charge,
You lost me. The electron and the position each have electric charge. You want to know if that charge can come from photons via some as-yet unknown type of electric charge? Why would it if it's a different type of electric charge?
 
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south said:
TL;DR Summary: What if were there a second type of elementary charge ?

Is there only one type of elementary charge? The type of elemental charge that appears on particles such as electron, proton, etc. It is well known. Could there be another different type that we don't know yet?
This happened historically. Protons were discovered to have other types of charged. Later on the force that uses those charges was unified with electromagnetism.
 
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Mister T said:
You lost me. The electron and the position each have electric charge. You want to know if that charge can come from photons via some as-yet unknown type of electric charge? Why would it if it's a different type of electric charge?
Thank you very much for assisting me. I got lost too. Cordial greetings.
 
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Dale said:
This happened historically. Protons were discovered to have other types of charged. Later on the force that uses those charges was unified with electromagnetism.
Thank you very much for assisting me. Cordial greetings.
 
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FAQ: Only one type of elementary electric charge?

What is meant by "only one type of elementary electric charge"?

In the context of particle physics, the phrase refers to the concept that all electric charges can be classified into two categories: positive and negative. However, the existence of only one type of elementary electric charge suggests that there is a fundamental unit of charge, which is carried by elementary particles such as electrons and protons. This idea is rooted in the standard model of particle physics.

Why do we observe both positive and negative charges if there is only one type of elementary charge?

The existence of both positive and negative charges arises from the interactions between particles. For example, electrons carry a negative charge while protons carry a positive charge. These charges are manifestations of the same fundamental property, but they differ in sign. The attraction between opposite charges and repulsion between like charges is what leads to the observable effects of electricity and magnetism.

What would happen if there were only one type of electric charge?

If there were only one type of electric charge, all particles would either have a positive or a negative charge, leading to a lack of electromagnetic interactions as we know them. This would fundamentally alter the structure of matter, as atoms rely on the attraction between positively charged protons and negatively charged electrons to maintain stability. Without this balance, the formation of atoms and, consequently, matter as we understand it would be impossible.

How does the concept of charge relate to the fundamental forces of nature?

Charge is a key property that mediates electromagnetic interactions, one of the four fundamental forces of nature (the others being gravity, weak nuclear force, and strong nuclear force). The electromagnetic force is responsible for the behavior of charged particles, governing how they interact with one another. This interaction is crucial for various phenomena, including electricity, magnetism, and even chemical bonding, which are essential for the existence of complex structures, including life.

Are there any theories that propose the existence of a single charge?

Some advanced theoretical frameworks, such as certain Grand Unified Theories (GUTs) and string theory, explore the idea of unifying the different forces and charges in a more fundamental way. These theories suggest that at extremely high energies, the distinctions between different types of charge might disappear, potentially leading to a single unified charge. However, these ideas remain speculative and have not been experimentally verified.

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