Organic Chemistry: Sub/Elim Reactions

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In summary: This is a summary of the conversation, not a summary of the homework. In summary, the following reactions will be primarily substitution:CH_3CH(Br)CH_3 + OH^ - (H_2O) - >OH^ -is stabilized in water so can't go Sn2,it can go Sn1 though and maybe some elimination.CH_3CH(Br)CH_3 + OH^ - (Ethanol) - >Isnt this case almost the same as above?The nucleophilicity of NH_3 and PH_3 depends on the solvent. NH_3 is more basic, making it a better nucleophile in aprotic solvents
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1)[tex](CH_3)_3CCH(OH)CH_3[/tex]+ HBr ->

[hide=My View]I believe reaction should be elimination because [tex]Br^ -[/tex] is a weaker nucleophile than [tex]OH^ -[/tex] so it cannot substitute it.[/hide]

2)[tex]CH_3CH_2CHBrCH_3[/tex] + [tex]EtO^ -[/tex]->

[hide]Substitution?[/hide]

3) Compare the nucleophilicity of[tex]NH_3[/tex] and [tex]PH_3[/tex]

[hide][tex]NH_3[/tex] has more [tex]e^ -[/tex] density so [tex]NH_3 > PH_3[/tex][/hide]

Will the following reactions be primarily substitution or elimination?

[tex]CH_3CH(Br)CH_3 + OH^ - (H_2O) - >[/tex]

[hide][tex]OH^ -[/tex]is stabilized in water so can't go Sn2,it can go Sn1 though and maybe some elimination.[/hide]

[tex]CH_3CH(Br)CH_3 + OH^ - (Ethanol) - >[/tex]

[hide]Isnt this case almost the same as above?[/hide]
 
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Spirochete said:
I've helped with these questions but you should probably review the rules for the criteria for Sn2/E2 and Sn1/E1. Remember that Sn2 and Sn1 are both substitutions but they happen under very different conditions. Same with E2/E1.

1) Nope. In the mechanism HBr protonates the alcohol to make a good leaving group. With secondary carbons the protonated hydroxyl group can leave as water, forming a carbocation that's attacked by bromine. This makes the overall mechanism. . . .

2) Secondary alkyl halide plus strong base gives a mix of substitution/elimination

3) Depends on the solvent type. NH3 is more basic, making it a better nucleophile in aprotic solvents. PH3 is less basic but is also larger and more polarizable. In protic solvent PH3 would be the better nucleophile because NH3 is tied up more by the protic solvent.

4) I forget which type of solvent (protic or aprotic) facilitates substitution. You'll have to look that up. I can tell you that you're not going to get any Sn1/E1 with such a strong base. This is a general rule.

5) Looks similar except hydroxide could deprotonate ethanol giving you a mixture of products.

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Related to Organic Chemistry: Sub/Elim Reactions

1. What is the difference between substitution and elimination reactions in organic chemistry?

Substitution reactions involve the replacement of one functional group with another, while elimination reactions involve the removal of a functional group to form a double bond. Substitution reactions typically result in a single product, while elimination reactions can produce multiple products.

2. What factors influence the rate of a substitution or elimination reaction?

The rate of a substitution or elimination reaction can be influenced by the nature of the reactants, the solvent used, and the reaction conditions (such as temperature and concentration). The presence of steric hindrance and the stability of the resulting product can also affect the rate of the reaction.

3. What is the difference between SN1 and SN2 reactions?

SN1 (nucleophilic substitution unimolecular) reactions involve a two-step mechanism where the leaving group first dissociates, forming a carbocation intermediate, before the nucleophile attacks. SN2 (nucleophilic substitution bimolecular) reactions, on the other hand, occur in a single step where the nucleophile displaces the leaving group in a backside attack.

4. Can a substitution reaction also lead to elimination?

Yes, in some cases, a substitution reaction can also result in an elimination product. This is known as an E1CB (elimination, unimolecular, conjugate base) reaction, where a proton is removed from a beta carbon to form a double bond.

5. How does the choice of solvent affect the selectivity of a substitution or elimination reaction?

The choice of solvent can affect the selectivity of a reaction by either promoting the desired pathway or hindering it. For example, polar protic solvents tend to favor SN1 reactions, while polar aprotic solvents favor SN2 and E2 reactions. This is due to the ability of the solvent to stabilize charged intermediates and influence the strength of the nucleophile and base.

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