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At high school, we saw without demonstration the fundamental principle of dynamics (2th Newton's law), i.e :
$$\sum \vec{F}=m \vec{a}\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,eq(1)$$
after, at university, we saw another expression of this 2th Newton's law :
$$\sum \vec{F}= \dfrac{d\vec{p}}{dt}\,\,\,\,\, \,\,\,eq(2)$$ with ##\vec{p} = m\vec{v}## the momentum.
From an historical point of view, which one was defined by Newton, eq(1) or (eq2) ?
The eq(2) allows to deduce the famous equation ##E=mc^{2}## by considering ##dp=d(mv)=dm\,v +m\,dv## but I think that Newton could not have access to ##dm## and so defined rather ##m=\text{constant}##, didn't he ?
Does the origin of eq(1) and eq(2) come from physical experiments performed by Newton ?
Secondly, we can proove eq(2) thanks to Euler-Lagrange equation, taking ##p_{i}## the i-th momentum :
$$\dfrac{d}{dt}\bigg(\dfrac{ \partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_{i}}\bigg)=\dfrac{d\,p _{i}}{dt}=\sum F$$
Are there other ways to get the eq(2) ?
Finally, one told me that Newton has used geometric demonstration : Anyone could give me a link on these geometric prooves ?
Thanks for your help
$$\sum \vec{F}=m \vec{a}\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,eq(1)$$
after, at university, we saw another expression of this 2th Newton's law :
$$\sum \vec{F}= \dfrac{d\vec{p}}{dt}\,\,\,\,\, \,\,\,eq(2)$$ with ##\vec{p} = m\vec{v}## the momentum.
From an historical point of view, which one was defined by Newton, eq(1) or (eq2) ?
The eq(2) allows to deduce the famous equation ##E=mc^{2}## by considering ##dp=d(mv)=dm\,v +m\,dv## but I think that Newton could not have access to ##dm## and so defined rather ##m=\text{constant}##, didn't he ?
Does the origin of eq(1) and eq(2) come from physical experiments performed by Newton ?
Secondly, we can proove eq(2) thanks to Euler-Lagrange equation, taking ##p_{i}## the i-th momentum :
$$\dfrac{d}{dt}\bigg(\dfrac{ \partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_{i}}\bigg)=\dfrac{d\,p _{i}}{dt}=\sum F$$
Are there other ways to get the eq(2) ?
Finally, one told me that Newton has used geometric demonstration : Anyone could give me a link on these geometric prooves ?
Thanks for your help
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