Parametric equation of a surface-eliminating the parameters

In summary, the parametric equations given describe a surface in terms of s, t, and u, but the goal is to eliminate s and t and express the surface in terms of x, y, and u. This can be achieved by solving for t in terms of u and x and plugging it into the second equation, but the method of solving for t depends on the form of the function f(t). If f(t) is invertible, it may be possible to express the surface using f and f-1. However, there is no general solution and the method must be worked out for each specific function.
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Homework Statement


The parametric equation of a surface is given by:
x = s + t, y = (s2/2) + s f(t) + t, u = s + f(t) where f is some given function (e.g. f(t)=t/2).
I would like to eliminate s and t from these equations and describe the surface in terms of x, y and u only.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


The first equation implies that s=x-t
Put it into the third equation, I get
u = x - t + f(t)
=> u - x = f(t) - t
Now if I can solve for t in terms of u and x, then I can put it into the second equation and I'm done.
But how can I solve for t in the equation u - x = f(t) - t ?
I think this may be related in some way to the idea of "inverse function", but I don't know how to handle it in this case...

Can someone please help me out?
Thank you! :)
 
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kingwinner said:
x = s + t, y = (s2/2) + s f(t) + t, u = s + f(t) where f is some given function (e.g. f(t)=t/2).

=> u - x = f(t) - t
Now if I can solve for t in terms of u and x, then I can put it into the second equation and I'm done.
But how can I solve for t in the equation u - x = f(t) - t ?
I think this may be related in some way to the idea of "inverse function", but I don't know how to handle it in this case...

Can someone please help me out?
Thank you! :)

Hi kingwinner! :smile:

If f(t) = t/2, it's easy!

If f(t) = t2, you need to solve a quadratic equation.

If f(t) is more complicated, there may be no non-computer solution.
 
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Hi tiny-tim,

If we assume that the general function f is invertible, can we eliminate s and t from these equations and describe the surface in terms of x, y and u only (perhaps with f and f-1 in the expression) ?
 
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kingwinner said:
If we assume that the general function f is invertible …

All functions are invertible (at least locally) …

no, there's no general solution, you have to work it out for each one.
 

FAQ: Parametric equation of a surface-eliminating the parameters

What is a parametric equation of a surface?

A parametric equation of a surface is a set of equations that describes a surface in three-dimensional space using one or more parameters. These parameters represent the coordinates of points on the surface and allow for a more flexible and precise description of the surface compared to traditional Cartesian equations.

How is a parametric equation of a surface different from a Cartesian equation?

A Cartesian equation describes a surface in terms of its x, y, and z coordinates, whereas a parametric equation uses parameters to define the coordinates of points on the surface. This allows for a more versatile and accurate description of complex surfaces, such as curves and surfaces of revolution.

What does it mean to "eliminate the parameters" in a parametric equation of a surface?

Eliminating the parameters means to rewrite the parametric equations in terms of the Cartesian coordinates x, y, and z. This can be done by solving for one of the parameters in terms of the other two, and substituting it into the other parametric equations. The resulting equations will be in Cartesian form and can be graphed on a traditional x-y-z coordinate system.

Why would someone want to eliminate the parameters in a parametric equation of a surface?

Eliminating the parameters can make it easier to visualize and analyze the surface. It can also allow for a more direct comparison with other surfaces described by Cartesian equations. Additionally, eliminating the parameters can simplify the process of finding intersections, tangents, and other geometric properties of the surface.

Are there any limitations to using a parametric equation of a surface?

Parametric equations are not always the most efficient or practical way to describe a surface. They may be more complex and difficult to understand compared to traditional Cartesian equations, especially for those unfamiliar with parametric equations. Additionally, some surfaces may be difficult or impossible to describe using parametric equations, making them less versatile in certain situations.

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