Parametric representation of a vector electric field

In summary, the conversation was about verifying an equation involving phi_yx and phi_x. The person making the attempt had some confusion about the signs and simplifying the equation, but with the help of Vela, they were able to correct their mistakes and come to the correct solution.
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I'm fairly certain that phi_yx is zero
Also I tried factoring out the cos and splitting up the equation into it's respective components, but to no avail. Am I even going about this correctly?
 

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The last bit is a typo. It should be [itex]\phi_{xy} = \phi_x[/itex].

I'm not sure what you mean by "splitting up the equation into its respective components" since the equation you're supposed to show is true is a scalar equation.
 
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Thanks for the reply Vela! Actually I think I figured it out. Maybe you or someone else can check my work? I assumed that it the phi's were not typos, but they could very well be. I went ahead and attached my work.
 

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Your expressions for Ex and Ey are slightly wrong. For example,
[tex]E_x = A_x\cos(kz-\omega t+\phi_x) = A_x\cos(-r+\phi_x) = A_x\cos(r-\phi_x)[/tex]since cosine is an even function. You have an extra negative signs floating around.

You must have made a mistake somewhere in the middle because the cross term has the wrong sign. The sign doesn't flip the way you did it because, again, [itex]\cos (-\theta)=\cos\theta[/itex].

You actually made it more complicated by keeping the E's and A's around. You know that
\begin{align*}
\frac{E_x}{A_x} &= \cos(\phi_x-r) \\
\frac{E_y}{A_y} &= \cos(r) \\
\end{align*}so you could have just written the lefthand side in terms of cosines and then shown it simplifies down to the righthand side.
 
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Ah that I forgot about that cosine property and I found a convenient sign mistake half way through the problem. Thanks Vela!
 

FAQ: Parametric representation of a vector electric field

What is parametric representation of a vector electric field?

Parametric representation of a vector electric field is a way to describe the magnitude and direction of an electric field at any point in space using mathematical equations. It involves representing the electric field as a function of position coordinates rather than as a simple vector.

Why is parametric representation used for vector electric fields?

Parametric representation allows for a more precise and general description of electric fields, as it can account for complex variations and changes in the field. It also allows for easier mathematical manipulation and analysis of electric fields.

How is parametric representation of a vector electric field different from a simple vector representation?

A simple vector representation only gives the magnitude and direction of the electric field at a specific point, while parametric representation describes the entire electric field in terms of position coordinates. This allows for a more comprehensive understanding of the field.

What are the benefits of using parametric representation over other methods?

Parametric representation is particularly useful for studying and analyzing electric fields in complex situations, such as those involving multiple charges or changing fields. It also allows for easier integration with other mathematical concepts and equations.

How is parametric representation of a vector electric field calculated?

The calculation of parametric representation involves using mathematical equations, such as those involving derivatives and integrals, to describe the electric field at various points in space. This can be done using principles from electrostatics and vector calculus.

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