Partial differentiation equation help

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of deriving the function f(r,s,t)=rln(rs2t3) with respect to s. It also mentions the steps involved in finding the partial derivatives frss and frst. The conversation also clarifies the use of the product rule in simplifying the expression.
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Homework Statement



derive (s2t3) / (rs2t3) with respect to s



The Attempt at a Solution



equation becomes s2t3*(rs2t3)-1

which becomes s2t3r-1s-2t-3

then just differantiate like a polynomial?

i tried this on an online partial differentiation calculator and it gave me an answer of:

(2s*t3(r*s2t3) - (s2t3)r*2s*t3)/(r*s2t3)2

where the heck do they get that from
 
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  • #2
It simplifies more than that:
[itex]\frac{s^2^3}{rs^2t^3}= \frac{1}{r}= r^{-1}[/itex] as long as s and t are not 0.

Its derivative with respect to s is 0.

(the rather strange formula you got is probably due to using the quotient rule. However, it should be easy to see that the numerator is of the for a- a= 0.)
 
  • #3
thats odd because of the questions i have.

the entire problem is this.

f(r,s,t)=rln(rs2t3)

partially differentiate to find a) frss and b) frst

fr is what i gave in the previous post.. to be fr=(s2t3) / (rs2t3)


then if frs is 0 then both answers to the questions a) and b) are zero without even doing the 3rd differential.
that just seems odd?
 
  • #4
But [tex] \partial_r [ r \ln (r s^2 t^3) ] = \ln ( r s^2 t^3 ) + 1[/tex], isn't it?
 
  • #5
i thought:

derivitive of ln(u) = 1/u*u' so that derivitive became 1/(rs2t3)*(s2t3)
 
  • #6
Of course, but you have a r in front of the logarithm multiplying it, so you need first to apply the product rule.
BTW: You can simplify your expression, 1/(r s² t³) *(s² t³) = 1/r. Which by multiplying with the r in front of the logarithm gives you the 1 in my result (second term of product rule).
 
  • #7
ohhhh. i see. so product rule where r=u and ln(rs^t^3)=v.

helps if i derive right hey
 
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FAQ: Partial differentiation equation help

What is a partial differentiation equation?

A partial differentiation equation is a mathematical expression that describes how a function changes with respect to multiple independent variables. It involves taking the partial derivatives of the function with respect to each variable in order to understand how each variable affects the overall function.

Why is partial differentiation important?

Partial differentiation is important because it allows us to analyze and understand the relationship between multiple variables in a function. It is commonly used in physics, engineering, and economics to model real-world systems and make predictions about their behavior.

How do you solve a partial differentiation equation?

Solving a partial differentiation equation involves taking partial derivatives of the function with respect to each variable and then setting them equal to each other. This creates a system of equations that can be solved simultaneously to find the values of the variables that satisfy the equation.

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How is partial differentiation related to total differentiation?

Partial differentiation is a special case of total differentiation in which only some of the variables in a function are allowed to vary. Total differentiation involves considering all variables in a function, while partial differentiation allows us to focus on specific variables and their relationship with the function.

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