Partial differentiaton question, how to distinguish between u and f (u )

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In summary, the conversation discusses a partial differentiation question involving V=xf(u) and u=y/x. The question requires using the product and chain rules to calculate ∂V/∂x and ∂V/∂y, which are then substituted into a given equation to simplify to zero. The conversation also clarifies that u is not the same as f(u).
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Homework Statement


Partial differentiation question

V=xf(u) and u=y/x, show that x^2. d2v/dx2 + 2xy. d2v/dxdy + y^2. d2V/dy2 = 0
Is u the same as f(u)

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V=xf(u) and u=y/x

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do you just differentiate the product of x.y/x
 
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No, u is not the same as f(u).

You need to use the product and chain rules. For example, to calculate ∂V/∂x, you'd start by applying the product rule to get
\begin{equation*}
\frac{\partial V}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial}{\partial x}[xf(u)] = f(u) + x \frac{\partial f(u)}{\partial x}
\end{equation*}
To calculate the second term, you need to use the chain rule, which says
\begin{equation*}
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial f}{\partial u}\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = -\frac{y}{x^2}\frac{\partial f}{\partial u}
\end{equation*}
So you have
\begin{equation*}
\frac{\partial V}{\partial x} = f(u) - \frac{y}{x} \frac{\partial f}{\partial u} = f(u) - u\frac{\partial f}{\partial u}
\end{equation*}
 
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Thankyou very much but i still cannot understand how that may lead to the form which the question wants us to show, thanks.
 
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Well, you have a way to go. Starting from vela's advice, you need to calculate ∂2V/∂x2, ∂V/∂y, ∂2V/∂y2, and ∂2V/(∂x∂y), and then substitute them into the left side of your equation, which should simplify to zero.
 

FAQ: Partial differentiaton question, how to distinguish between u and f (u )

1. What is the purpose of partial differentiation?

Partial differentiation is a mathematical technique used to calculate the rate of change of a function with respect to one of its variables, while holding all other variables constant. It is often used in multivariable calculus to solve optimization problems and model real-world situations.

2. How is partial differentiation different from ordinary differentiation?

Ordinary differentiation involves finding the rate of change of a function with respect to a single variable. Partial differentiation, on the other hand, involves finding the rate of change of a multivariable function with respect to one of its variables, while treating all other variables as constants.

3. Can you explain the notation for partial differentiation?

The notation for partial differentiation is similar to ordinary differentiation, with the addition of subscripts to indicate which variable is being held constant. For example, ∂f/∂x represents the partial derivative of the function f with respect to the variable x, while treating all other variables as constants.

4. How do I know when to use u and when to use f(u) in partial differentiation?

The variable u is typically used to represent the independent variable in a function, while f(u) represents the dependent variable. When taking partial derivatives, you will use u when differentiating with respect to the independent variable, and f(u) when differentiating with respect to the dependent variable.

5. Are there any common mistakes to watch out for when using partial differentiation?

One common mistake is forgetting to include the partial derivative notation (∂) when taking a partial derivative. Another mistake is confusing the independent and dependent variables, which can lead to incorrect calculations. It is also important to remember to treat all other variables as constants when taking a partial derivative.

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