Particle Elastic Collision problem

In summary, the larger mass has a higher initial speed and reaches a final speed of 5^(.5)V_0 faster than the smaller mass.
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I have a problem here. I got "answers", but I don't believe they are correct and I have no idea where I went wrong.

The question is... "Determine the speed V_2 (V sub 2) of the larger mass after the collision and Theta 1 and Theta 2.

mass of smaller particle = m
mass of larger particle = 2m
Initial speed of m = 3V_0 (3 v knot)
Initial speed of 2m= 0
Final speed of m = 5^(.5)V_0
Final speed of 2m=V_2 ...??
Theta1= ?
Theta2= ?

This is obviously a conservation of momentum/Kinetic energy problem, with X and Y components of direction. Here is what I have.

3mV_0=5^(.5)V_0Cos(theta1)+(2m)2^(.5)V_0Cos(theta2 )--->Conservation of momentum in the x direction(COMX)

0=5^(.5)mV_0Sin(theta1)-2*2^(.5)mV_0Sin(theta2)--->Conservation of momentum in the y direction(COMY)

.5*m(3V_0)^2=(m(5^(.5*V_0)^2)*(.5)+m(V_2final)^2--->Conservation of Kenetic ENergy(COKE)
(COKE) goes down to (2^(.5))*(V_0)
(COMY) goes to 0=5^(.5)*Sin(theta1)-2*2^(.5)*Sin(theta2)
(COMX) goes to 3=5^(.5)Cos(theta1)+2*2^(.5)*Cos(theta2)

Any mistakes ? Any suggestions? Thanks for looking, and sorry I am not very well schooled in how to write equations on the computer. PS: theta1 will be angle of m (from the horizontal) and theta2 will be angle of 2m(from the horizontal)

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p_x : m 3v_0 = m sqrt(5)v_0 cos(theta1) + 2m ***v_2***cos(theta2)
. . . . how did you figure out immediately that v_2 = sqrt(2) v_0 ?

(It might be easier to calculate this in the "center-of-mass" reference frame,
(the bee in c.o.m. frame sees the total momentum = 0 ; bee has v_x = v_0).
 
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(KE)im1=(KE)fm1+(KE)fm2--->
masses cancel out and 2*m*(.5) cancels out to give the following
(((3Vi)^2)/2)=(.5*(sqrt5Vi)^2)+Velocity^2[<---velocity for mass 2]
3vi^2=9vi^2,---->sqrt5Vi^2=5Vi^2, so---> Taking .5*sqrt5Vi^2 to the other side
((9Vi^2)\2)-((5Vi^2)\2)=(Velocity final for mass 2)^2---> Subtracting Vi from Vi
then 4/2*Vi^2=(Velocity final for mass 2)^2---> Sqrt'ing whole equation
Then sqrt2*Vi=(Velocity final for mass 2)
 
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For a Perfectly Elastic collision, like yours,
the relative velocity after collision to be opposite the rel.velocity before.
. . . ( but 3 v_0 - 0 =/= - sqrt(5) v_0 - sqrt(2) v_0 ~ 3.6 v_0 ) . . .
in the center-of-mass reference frame.
v_1fy = -2 v_2fy . . . . . and . . . . v_1fx = - 2 ( v_2fx ) .
so, we can add the velocity triangles and we find that the v_fx = 0 !

This leads to (in lab frame) : v_1fy = +/- 2 v_0 , v_1fx = - v_0 ;
so tan(theta1) = +/- 2 (it is symmetric across the x-axis).
 

FAQ: Particle Elastic Collision problem

What is a particle elastic collision?

A particle elastic collision is a type of collision in which two particles collide and maintain their original kinetic energies after the collision. This means that no energy is lost during the collision, and both particles continue to move with the same speed and direction as before the collision.

What is the difference between an elastic collision and an inelastic collision?

The main difference between an elastic collision and an inelastic collision is that in an elastic collision, the kinetic energy is conserved, while in an inelastic collision, some or all of the kinetic energy is converted into other forms of energy, such as heat or sound.

How is the momentum conserved in a particle elastic collision?

Momentum is conserved in a particle elastic collision because the total momentum of the system before the collision is equal to the total momentum after the collision. This means that the sum of the momenta of the two particles before the collision is equal to the sum of their momenta after the collision.

What is the formula for calculating the final velocities in a particle elastic collision?

The formula for calculating the final velocities in a particle elastic collision is:
v1f = (m1 - m2) / (m1 + m2) * v1i + (2 * m2) / (m1 + m2) * v2i
v2f = (2 * m1) / (m1 + m2) * v1i + (m2 - m1) / (m1 + m2) * v2i
where m1 and m2 are the masses of the two particles, and v1i and v2i are their initial velocities.

How does the angle of collision affect the final velocities in a particle elastic collision?

The angle of collision does not affect the final velocities in a particle elastic collision. This is because the final velocities only depend on the masses and initial velocities of the particles, and not on the angle at which they collide.

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