Pendulum and spinning mass -- Coupled

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving two masses connected by a string and how they move when one mass is pushed to start oscillating and the other is pushed to move in a circular motion. The question arises about how the two masses are still coupled when the length of the pendulum arm is assumed to be constant. The solution reveals that the problem can be reduced to a simple pendulum and a mass spinning with constant angular velocity.
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Homework Statement


Imagine two masses connected to each other by a string. One mass sits atop a table, while the other mass dangles below the table, as the string is fed through a hole in the center. The configuration looks like this: http://tuhsphysics.ttsd.k12.or.us/Tutorial/NewIBPS/PS5_3/5-32.JPG. Now push the swinging pass so that it start oscillating as a pendulum, and simultaneously push the top mass so that it starts moving in a circular motion. Assume the length of the pendulum arm is constant. Write the lagrangian and find the equations of motion.

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The Attempt at a Solution



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My confusion is this: If we assume the length of the pendulum arm to be constant, it seems that the two masses are no longer coupled. Thus the problem immediately reduces to a simple pendulum and a mass spinning with constant angular velocity. This doesn't seem correct. How am I supposed to interpret this problem so that the string never slides anywhere, yet the two masses are still coupled in some way?
 
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dwieker said:
If we assume the length of the pendulum arm to be constant, it seems that the two masses are no longer coupled.
You have nailed it.
 

FAQ: Pendulum and spinning mass -- Coupled

1. What is a pendulum and spinning mass coupled system?

A pendulum and spinning mass coupled system is a physical arrangement where a pendulum and a spinning mass are connected to each other. The pendulum and spinning mass are coupled through a fixed point or a pivot point, allowing them to move together in a synchronized manner.

2. How does the pendulum and spinning mass coupled system work?

The pendulum and spinning mass coupled system work through the principles of rotational and oscillatory motion. The spinning mass provides rotational motion, while the pendulum provides oscillatory motion. This results in a complex motion pattern where both the pendulum and spinning mass move simultaneously.

3. What are the applications of a pendulum and spinning mass coupled system?

A pendulum and spinning mass coupled system have various applications, such as in clocks, gyroscopes, and seismographs. It is also used in research to study the principles of rotational and oscillatory motion and their effects on each other.

4. What factors affect the motion of a pendulum and spinning mass coupled system?

The motion of a pendulum and spinning mass coupled system is affected by various factors, including the length of the pendulum, the mass and shape of the spinning mass, and the strength of the coupling between them. Other external factors, such as air resistance and friction, can also influence the motion of the system.

5. How can the motion of a pendulum and spinning mass coupled system be controlled?

The motion of a pendulum and spinning mass coupled system can be controlled by adjusting the length of the pendulum, changing the mass or shape of the spinning mass, or altering the strength of the coupling between them. External factors, such as air resistance, can also be controlled to some extent to affect the motion of the system.

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