Pendulum velocity using energy forumula

In summary, the problem deals with a pendulum and finding the velocity at a specific point. The equations used were kinetic energy and potential energy, and the solution involved subtracting the potential energy from the kinetic energy. The reason for this is because the potential energy decreases with height above the Earth's surface, so the equation reflects this loss of energy.
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Homework Statement



This problem deals with a pendulum. Imagine you're just letting it dangle (so perpendicular to ground) and you lift it to the side by some angle theta. This point your holding it at will be Point A. You release the pendulum from your grip and want to find out at Point B (where it was originally at, just dangling in a straight line) what the velocity is there.
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Homework Equations


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Since only the work of gravity is being done, I am using Ea = Eb. So the kinetic energy at Point A plus the potential energy at point A equals the kinetic energy at Point B plus the potential energy at point B.
Kinetic = (0.5)(m)v^2 Potential = mgl

The Attempt at a Solution


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I did (0.5)(m)(0) + mglcos(theta) = (0.5)m(Vb)^2 + mgl
Vb = sqrt(2gl(cos(theta)-1)))

The problem is, I don't think this is right. My professor did this in class and got a different answer.
He did this 0 - mglcos(theta) = (0.5)m(Vb)^2 - mgl -------> Vb = sqrt(2gl(1-cos(theta)))

Why did he subtract? I thought Eb= Ea was kinetic PLUS potential
 
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I don't know why my picture doesn't show. I drew it (its real simple) and uploaded it. If my wording doesn't make enough sense here it is https://imgur.com/YqxEwFH
 
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Garrit said:
I don't know why my picture doesn't show. I drew it (its real simple) and uploaded it. If my wording doesn't make enough sense here it is https://imgur.com/YqxEwFH
Instead of posting a url to some offsite-stored image which can sometimes be "fragile", it's better to upload your image to the PF server. Use the UPLOAD feature (button at the bottom right of the edit window).

This time I'll insert a copy of your image for you.
 
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Garrit said:
Why did he subtract? I thought Eb= Ea was kinetic PLUS potential
The gravitational potential energy decreases with height above the Earth's surface. You've chosen coordinates such that the distance increases downwards, so that you should have ΔPE ∝ -Δh.

It's often worthwhile to look at the change in elevation that occurs and ask yourself whether you should be gaining KE from the change in PE or losing KE to PE. Then make sure that your equation reflects this gain or loss for the given change in elevation.
 
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Ohh ok. That makes sense. Thanks!
 

FAQ: Pendulum velocity using energy forumula

1. How is the velocity of a pendulum calculated using the energy formula?

The velocity of a pendulum can be calculated using the formula v = √(2gh), where v is the velocity, g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s²), and h is the height of the pendulum's swing.

2. What is the relationship between the pendulum's velocity and its energy?

The velocity of a pendulum is directly related to its energy. As the velocity increases, so does the kinetic energy of the pendulum. This is because the kinetic energy of an object is proportional to its mass and the square of its velocity.

3. Can the energy formula be used to calculate the velocity of a pendulum at any point during its swing?

Yes, the energy formula can be used to calculate the velocity of a pendulum at any point during its swing as long as the height and acceleration due to gravity remain constant. However, the velocity will be constantly changing due to the pendulum's oscillation.

4. How does the length of the pendulum affect its velocity according to the energy formula?

The energy formula shows that the velocity of a pendulum is not affected by its length. However, a longer pendulum will have a longer period of oscillation, meaning it will take longer to complete one swing. This can result in a higher velocity at the bottom of the swing due to the increased distance traveled.

5. Is the energy formula for calculating pendulum velocity affected by air resistance?

The energy formula does not take into account air resistance, so in a real-world scenario, the calculated velocity may not be completely accurate. This is because air resistance can slow down the pendulum's swing and decrease its velocity. However, for small swings and in a vacuum, the formula can still be used accurately.

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