Perforated Pipe Flow with a closed end

In summary, the conversation discusses the design analysis for a hydroponic garden using a 10 m long perforated pipe system. The pipe is 5 cm in diameter and contains circular holes every 20 cm. A pump delivers water at 75 kPa (gage) at the entrance, while the other end of the pipe is closed. The pressure near the closed end is unexpectedly high, causing too much flow through the holes near that end. One proposed remedy is to vary the hole size along the pipe axis, with the goal of achieving a uniform discharge flow rate. The equations used include Bernoulli's modified energy equation for head loss, head loss equation with respect to friction factor, continuity equation, and the Reynolds number. The conversation
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A hydroponic garden uses the 10 m long perforated pipe system to deliver water at 20ºC. The pipe is 5cm in diameter and contains a circular hole every 20 cm. A pump delivers water at 75 kPa (gage) at the entrance, while the other end of the pipe is closed. pressure near the closed end of the perforated “manifold” is surprisingly high and there will be too much flow trough the holes near that end. One remedy is to vary the hole size along the pipe axis. Make a design analysis to pick the optimum hole-size distribution that will make the discharge flow rate as uniform as possible along the pipe axis. You are constrained to pick hole sizes that correspond only to commercial metric drill-bit sizes available to the typical machine shop.

Homework Equations



1) bernoulli's modified energy equation for head loss:
P1/gamma + V1^2/2*g + z1 = P2/gamma + V2^2/2*g + z2 + hf(headloss)

Where P=gage pressure kpa, V= average velocity in pipe, Gamma=rho*g, z= vertical position in meters, g=gravity. rho=density, 1 and 2 denote different places of interest in center of pipe.

2) Head loss equation with respect to friction factor:
hf= f*L*V^2/(2*g*D)

where f= friction factor, L = length of pipe where flow is being analyzed, D is diameter of pipe, g= gravity,

3) V= 4Q/(pi*D^2)
where Q= flow rate in m^3/s

4) Reynolds #, (Re)= rho*V*D/mu
mu= viscosity

turbulent flow Re>2300
Laminar flow Re<2300

5) for Laminar flow, f=64/Re
for Turbulent flow, f= determined from moody chart

Assume smooth pipe curve for moody chart.

The Attempt at a Solution



First of all I don't think that the pump has much to do with the problem, its just there to tell you what the pressure is at the start of the 10m section. Secondly I know that if all the exit holes are the same diameter, the pressure is a function of x from x=0 to x=10. I also know that the x direction velocity in the pipe will be a function of x, with Vmax at x=0, and V=0 at x=10. So I know in order to even out the flow through each exit hole, I need to vary the size from biggest to smallest from x=0 to x=10.

I have several theories on how to solve it, I just don't know how to go about it. first of all, my equation for velocity as function of x is V(x)=Vmax*(10-x)/10
I thought I might be able to plug this into eq. 1) where V2 at end of pipe=0, and z1=z2. Then substite eq 2) into eq 1). From this stuff make a function of flow Q(x) as function of x, and f. Then pick f value, Re value off moody chart, and iterate to find Q(x), then some how use That equation to adjust the diameter of each hole...

I was also thinking, that If I have Q(x) and I want all the flow rates to be the same, could I take the derivative of Q, dQ/dx, and set it equal to zero to solve for something, because then flow rate won't change? or something like that?

I don't know for sure, any input would be greatly appreciated.
 

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p5bombara said:
head loss
There is no given info re friction factor, so ignore head loss.

You need to set up a recurrence relation.
At each hole, there is effectively an increase in pipe area since some flow is diverted through the hole. Write the Bernoulli equation for that in terms of the pressures each side.
 
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haruspex said:
At each hole, there is effectively an increase in pipe area since some flow is diverted through the hole
If this is true, then at each hole the velocity effectively drops (as a consequence of continuity equation), which according to Bernoulli equation has as consequence that the pressure increases. Or am I wrong somehow?
 
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Delta2 said:
at each hole the velocity effectively drops (as a consequence of continuity equation), which according to Bernoulli equation has as consequence that the pressure increases
Seems right. So?
 
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haruspex said:
Seems right. So?
Ehm, don't we want the pressure to drop as we move towards the other end of the pipe?
 
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Delta2 said:
Ehm, don't we want the pressure to drop as we move towards the other end of the pipe?
Why? We want the same volume of flow out of each hole. If the water were static in the pipe we would want the same pressure at each, but since the velocity is higher near the start it does not need as much pressure there to get the same exit flow.
 
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Why? We want the same volume of flow out of each hole. If the water were static in the pipe we would want the same pressure at each, but since the velocity is higher near the start it does not need as much pressure there to get the same exit flow.
Still don't know, my intuition tells me something is not right by considering this effective model with increasing pipe diameter at each hole.
 
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Delta2 said:
Still don't know, my intuition tells me something is not right by considering this effective model with increasing pipe diameter at each hole.
Yes, I did not mean to give the impression it is exactly like that. At each hole there are three pressures, not two.
 
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three? which ones? Anyway are we supposed to make the hole diameter in decreasing order from the feeding end to the closed end so that the flow rate through each hole remains approximately the same?
 
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Delta2 said:
three?
Left of the hole, right of the hole and outside the hole (0).
Delta2 said:
make the hole diameter in decreasing order from the feeding end to the closed end so that the flow rate through each hole remains approximately the same?
Yes.
 
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FAQ: Perforated Pipe Flow with a closed end

What is perforated pipe flow with a closed end?

Perforated pipe flow with a closed end is a type of fluid flow in which a fluid, such as water, is forced through a pipe that has small holes or perforations along its length. The end of the pipe is closed, meaning that the fluid cannot escape from that end.

What is the purpose of using perforated pipes with a closed end?

The purpose of using perforated pipes with a closed end is to allow for controlled and directed flow of fluid. This is commonly used in drainage systems, where the holes in the pipe allow water to enter and be directed away from a certain area or structure.

How does the closed end of the pipe affect the flow of fluid?

The closed end of the pipe creates a back pressure, or resistance, to the flow of fluid. This can affect the flow rate and pressure within the pipe, and can be manipulated by varying the number and size of the perforations.

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