Permissibility of Limit Technique

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In summary: Therefore, we limit the answer to positive real numbers because we want to avoid zero and infinity, which are also solutions to the extended real number equation. Additionally, we want to avoid negative real numbers because they do not make sense in the context of this problem. In summary, the limit in this problem is limited to positive real numbers and the method used to solve it is permissible as long as the answer is checked to ensure it is not zero or infinity.
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The following came from a step in my EM homework. I came up with the answer that all of my resources (calculator, WolframAlpha, and a friend) were indicating as the correct answer, so it is not about the homework. This is about the permissibility of what was done.
1. [tex]x=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}n\sin\frac{\pi}{n}[/tex]
2. [tex]x=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{n}{\csc\frac{\pi}{n}}[/tex]
3. [tex]x=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{1}{\frac{\pi\cos\frac{\pi}{n}}{n^2\sin^2\frac{\pi}{n}}}[/tex]
4. [tex]x=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{n^2\sin^2\frac{\pi}{n}}{\pi\cos\frac{\pi}{n}}[/tex]
5. [tex]x=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{x^2}{\pi\cos\frac{\pi}{n}}[/tex]
6. [tex]\frac{1}{x}=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{1}{\pi\cos\frac{\pi}{n}}[/tex]
7. [tex]x=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\pi\cos\frac{\pi}{n}[/tex]
8. [tex]x=\pi\cos0=\pi[/tex]
Given that the exponent on x in step 5 is not 1, x is not zero or infinity, and that x is not the entirety of the argument of the limit, can we/I conclude that this will work in general?
Other possible solutions between 1 and 8 include a change in variable, the limit if the series expansion at infinity, the squeeze theorem, or using the inverse of step two instead.
 
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If x is known to exist and be a positive real number, then this method works, although it is presented mildly sloppily -- remember that lim A/B is (lim A)/(lim B) if both limits on the right hand side are known to exist, and the denominator is nonzero.


Note that [itex]x = +\infty[/itex] and x = 0 are also solutions to the extended real number equation
[tex]x = \frac{x^2}{\pi}[/tex]
 
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By what you said here, I take it to mean that once an answer has been arrived at by this method, it would be advisable/required to check 0 and infinity to make sure that they are not the answer. In this case I knew that neither of those could be the answer based on the nature of the question and the fact that the answer had to exist or the question would not have been asked.
Why did you limit the answer to positive real numbers?
 
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Yitzach said:
Why did you limit the answer to positive real numbers?
Really, I just wanted to avoid zero and +infinity. I could have said "nonzero real". (which avoids -infinity too, but ah well)
 
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Yitzach said:
The following came from a step in my EM homework. I came up with the answer that all of my resources (calculator, WolframAlpha, and a friend) were indicating as the correct answer, so it is not about the homework. This is about the permissibility of what was done.

So you are aware or do you care that much simpler more direct arguments are available?
 
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Hurkyl said:
Really, I just wanted to avoid zero and +infinity. I could have said "nonzero real". (which avoids -infinity too, but ah well)
Fair enough. So is there a reason for real numbers?

LCKurtz said:
So you are aware or do you care that much simpler more direct arguments are available?
Yes I was aware of other methods. I was wondering about the permissibility of what I did for if I wanted to do it again later. Notice that I mentioned four other methods in the initial post.
 
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Yitzach said:
Fair enough. So is there a reason for real numbers?
We are looking at a limit of real numbers, so the limit, if it exists, must be an extended real number.
 

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