Photographs that changed the world

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In summary: The one of the hand... it's not there because it's the first picture of a hand, it's the first x-ray, which is in a way a type of picture. Are you going to tell me that's not a monumental event?
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It seems many of those are just photos of events that changed the world.

And of the photos which actually had an impact themselves, the descriptions are still of the events that the picture depicts, rather than how the picture affected the public.
 
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The one of the vulture stalking the starving child is, to me, very shocking.
As for 911, I am so glad that a federal judge ruled that NONE of the falling victims are to be considered suicide.
 
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As for 911, I am so glad that a federal judge ruled that NONE of the falling victims are to be considered suicide.
Is that for insurance purposes?

Still suicide by definition, though.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Is that for insurance purposes?

Still suicide by definition, though.

The judge ruled that, for insurance purposes, "suicide" in that SPECIAL CASE does not fit an acceptable legal definition of suicide.
 
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pallidin said:
The judge ruled that, for insurance purposes, "suicide" in that SPECIAL CASE does not fit an acceptable legal definition of suicide.

They should do that for all cases that are similar; like people in other burning buildings.
 
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wrongusername said:
It seems many of those are just photos of events that changed the world.

And of the photos which actually had an impact themselves, the descriptions are still of the events that the picture depicts, rather than how the picture affected the public.

Uh, no they are definitely the photographs doing the work. Do you honestly think any of those events would have sent any sort of ripple around the world had they not been known? Oh right they couldn't have because they wouldn't have been known.

Photojournalist study their photographs with the UTMOST attention to detail in order to specific convey meanings and feelings. You are vastly underrating these photographs with the statement you've just made. I bet you wouldn't be able to take and distribute a picture that would be viewed worldwide sparking emotion and thoughts if I gave all the equipment to you and a disaster happened close by.
 
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zomgwtf said:
Uh, no they are definitely the photographs doing the work. Do you honestly think any of those events would have sent any sort of ripple around the world had they not been known? Oh right they couldn't have because they wouldn't have been known.

Photojournalist study their photographs with the UTMOST attention to detail in order to specific convey meanings and feelings. You are vastly underrating these photographs with the statement you've just made. I bet you wouldn't be able to take and distribute a picture that would be viewed worldwide sparking emotion and thoughts if I gave all the equipment to you and a disaster happened close by.

Thanks, point taken :biggrin: I concede I was quite too unappreciative of the potential of pictures
 
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@OP, Indeed many of those pictures are quite disturbing, but something that is MORE disturbing is that many of those images have videos of the same events. It's a pretty uncomfortable feeling watching a seemingly random person be executed or falling to their death.

Here's a photojournalist who has plenty of photos that I've gone through before and thought were 'great':
http://www.zoriah.net/blog/
 
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Some of them are stupid. First picture on the internet?

Overall very touching
 
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Wow, I've only seen 5 of those.

Never seen the first one. Some I saw in Time/Life magazine. The youngest pregnant girl was from a medical journal from 1939, obscure, had nothing to do with anything aside from being shown as a freak picture on the internet. The first picture of the hand, never seen it before, has no meaning either outside of biology.

Ok, so these pictures were a bad choice overall, IMO. There are much more meaningful ones.
 
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Evo said:
Wow, I've only seen 5 of those.

Never seen the first one. Some I saw in Time/Life magazine. The youngest pregnant girl was from a medical journal from 1939, obscure, had nothing to do with anything aside from being shown as a freak picture on the internet. The first picture of the hand, never seen it before, has no meaning either outside of biology.

Ok, so these pictures were a bad choice overall, IMO. There are much more meaningful ones.

Uhmm, I'm pretty sure that the pregnant 5 year old was released publicly without the internet? Regardless I don't think the intention of it is a 'freak show'. And the one of the hand... it's not there because it's the first picture of a hand, it's the first x-ray, which is in a way a type of picture. Are you going to tell me that's not a monumental image?
 
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So... the father raped the 5 year old girl? I noticed that where the male gamete came from wasn't mentioned. It wasn't immaculate conception.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
So... the father raped the 5 year old girl? I noticed that where the male gamete came from wasn't mentioned. It wasn't immaculate conception.

No one knows, they believe the father raped her but there wasn't enough evidence so charges were dropped against him. The girl wouldn't say anything about what had happened.

This is one of the odd/disgusting things about this story. Most people when they hear about how young she was and pregnant find it amazing/miracle/interesting that she was only pregnant at such at young age. No one EVER (few exceptions) thinks 'why was someone having sex with a 5 year old?'

It's almost as if people find it acceptable that she got pregnant because of how interesting it is.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
So... the father raped the 5 year old girl? I noticed that where the male gamete came from wasn't mentioned. It wasn't immaculate conception.
The answer is not known, and probably best left that way obviously.
 
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humanino said:
The answer is not known, and probably best left that way obviously.

Case and point. lol.

How can anyone think it's probably best that a child rapist of a 5 year old girl goes unknown/uncaught? By my morals and values this is definitely not something I consider.
 
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Good post.
 
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This is one of the odd/disgusting things about this story. Most people when they hear about how young she was and pregnant find it amazing/miracle/interesting that she was only pregnant at such at young age. No one EVER (few exceptions) thinks 'why was someone having sex with a 5 year old?'

It's almost as if people find it acceptable that she got pregnant because of how interesting it is.
The article makes it sound like having sex with 5 year old kids is given; the only part that needed explaining is how it resulted in pregnancy. "Turns out she was precocious with her menstruation. So yeah, there's the answer to the one question I know you were asking in your head."

It's like if I got E. coli from eating dog poop and the only thing people want to know is why dog poop has E. coli in it; not why I'm eating dog poop in the first place.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
It's like if I got E. coli from eating dog poop and the only thing people want to know is why dog poop has E. coli in it; not why I'm eating dog poop in the first place.

Lol, precisely.
 
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zomgwtf said:
No one knows, they believe the father raped her but there wasn't enough evidence so charges were dropped against him. The girl wouldn't say anything about what had happened.

This is one of the odd/disgusting things about this story. Most people when they hear about how young she was and pregnant find it amazing/miracle/interesting that she was only pregnant at such at young age. No one EVER (few exceptions) thinks 'why was someone having sex with a 5 year old?'

It's almost as if people find it acceptable that she got pregnant because of how interesting it is.

Oh I'm not so sure about this. Any parent would look at that pic and think, Bring the girl's parents in for questioning...NOW. At least that's what I thought...but then, I'm a mom.
 
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Photographs that changed the world should be the ones where the picture, itself, had a huge impact on the public psyche. Some of those that just document an important moment in history could still be considered a picture that changed the world just because the picture so well captured the public psyche that the picture became a symbol of the event (i.e. - Iwo Jima flag raising and the sailor kissing a random girl on the street).

I think they came up short by at least one picture. The pictures of Abu Ghraib had at least as significant an impact on public opinion as the Napalm girl and execution of the Viet Nam war.
 
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zomgwtf said:
How can anyone think it's probably best that a child rapist of a 5 year old girl goes unknown/uncaught? By my morals and values this is definitely not something I consider.
If the event were recent, I would completely agree. But after more than 70 years, it would seem the culprit escaped justice. Even the child died by now.
 
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I'm glad she seemed to have lived a full life despite this.
 
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lisab said:
Oh I'm not so sure about this. Any parent would look at that pic and think, Bring the girl's parents in for questioning...NOW. At least that's what I thought...but then, I'm a mom.

My first thought was not HOW she got pregnant but WHO got a 5 year old pregnant. I was thinking that poor girl suffered enough getting pregnant and now she has to give birth. Someone needs to hang the b@st@ard.
 
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AnaShep said:
My first thought was not HOW she got pregnant but WHO got a 5 year old pregnant. I was thinking that poor girl suffered enough getting pregnant and now she has to give birth. Someone needs to hang the b@st@ard.
Um - that was 71 years ago (1939) in Lima, Peru. He probably long dead.

As for the vulture stalking the child, that's the time to put the camera down and do something. My inclination would be to grab the child and get him/her to a clinic or hospital.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Is that for insurance purposes?

Still suicide by definition, though.
No it's a matter of avoiding having oneself incinerated by the flames or asphixiated from the smoke. Those folks on the floors where the planes hit and those above didn't have a chance of being rescued.

The response was slow and confusing because of poor communications, and of course there was no plan to rescue people from the roof because no one ever anticipated large aircraft crashing into the buildings, nor did they expect the buildings to collapse so readily.

I've seen many of those pictures, and some just after they were filmed.

It's sad to see that things like that still go on.
 
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I think I am going to have nightmares over the photo of the baby being buried due to the chemical plant accident. The video of napalm girl is disturbing. You can see her skin peeling off.
 
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No it's a matter of avoiding having oneself incinerated by the flames or asphixiated from the smoke. Those folks on the floors where the planes hit and those above didn't have a chance of being rescued.
I agree, but it's still, by definition, suicide. I know they don't want to call it suicide out of respect for the people, and it's an understandable case of suicide, but suicide nonetheless. We can't just disregard what words mean because some people put a negative connotation on 'suicide'. They had to pick their poison and they chose the lesser of two evils. There's nothing wrong with that.
 
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BobG said:
Photographs that changed the world should be the ones where the picture, itself, had a huge impact on the public psyche. Some of those that just document an important moment in history could still be considered a picture that changed the world just because the picture so well captured the public psyche that the picture became a symbol of the event (i.e. - Iwo Jima flag raising and the sailor kissing a random girl on the street).

I think they came up short by at least one picture. The pictures of Abu Ghraib had at least as significant an impact on public opinion as the Napalm girl and execution of the Viet Nam war.

We didn't see many pictures in this country that displayed the civilian horrors in Iraq. Under google images using the term shock and awe I noticed a lot of buildings burning in the distance.

One picture did catch my eye albeit very disturbingly so.

Liberated boy:

http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg

Here is shock and awe cleaned up for the American public.

http://www.tonyrogers.com/images/weapons/b2bombs_300px.jpg
 
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leroyjenkens said:
I agree, but it's still, by definition, suicide. I know they don't want to call it suicide out of respect for the people, and it's an understandable case of suicide, but suicide nonetheless. We can't just disregard what words mean because some people put a negative connotation on 'suicide'. They had to pick their poison and they chose the lesser of two evils. There's nothing wrong with that.
It would also be suicide to stay inside and die. It's just deciding between a long or short death.

Also, the 5 year old girl, that was in a medical journal, it did not make the news, no one knew about it until someone found it 70 years later and posted it on the internet as an oddity.
 
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zomgwtf said:
No one knows, they believe the father raped her but there wasn't enough evidence so charges were dropped against him. The girl wouldn't say anything about what had happened.

Apparently I read somewhere that she is still alive but the child (son) has since died. She still remains silent on the subject when asked though.
 
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Astronuc said:
As for the vulture stalking the child, that's the time to put the camera down and do something. My inclination would be to grab the child and get him/her to a clinic or hospital.

The guilty feeling is believed to be what led eventually to the photographer's suicide.

I happened to meet a photo journalist recently and I asked him why the photographer didn't try to help the child. He didn't try to judge the photographer, but said that behavior did not surprise him. Photographers in war zone see lots of bloody scenes and get accustomed to just taking taking pictures and leaving the scene.
 
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Astronuc said:
As for the vulture stalking the child, that's the time to put the camera down and do something. My inclination would be to grab the child and get him/her to a clinic or hospital.
According to the link, the NY Times said that after snapping the photo, he chased off the bird and that the child made it to the feeding center.

The bird wasn't attacking the child.
 

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