Physics of Roulette: Spin, Friction, Wind, Momentum, Bounce

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In summary, the conversation revolves around the physics involved in roulette and the possibility of predicting the outcome through consistent application of momentum and understanding of the table's bias. The participants also touch upon the history of using wearable computers and lasers to gain an advantage in roulette.
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Hi guys I have a question.
What are the physics involved in roulette?

I know you have these:
-Spin or momentum of the roulette table
-Friction on the ball from the table
-wind resistance on the ball
-momentum of the ball
-And the bounce when the ball finally drops and hits a few groves

Anything I've missed?

I've placed this in number theory because I was also curious how the maths works.
I've been watching some online roulette and keep seeing certain numbers pop up, it looks like more than chance. Is it possible that the ball lands in some places more than others because the guy applying the momentum to the ball is consistent? Kinda like throwing pennies into a cup, if you do it long enough you become consistent due to muscle memory.

What do you guys think?
 
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This is where you want to start your research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaemons

Some physicists in the 70's figured out how to make a wearable roulette computer. You'd watch a roulette wheel for a while and input the results; and it would figure out the wheel's bias and tell you how to bet.

Fascinating story. It worked but of course they had some problems ... wearable electronics weren't exactly easy in the 70's, they had to invent everything they used. One team member was burned when a unit shorted out.
 
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SteveL27 said:
This is where you want to start your research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaemons

Some physicists in the 70's figured out how to make a wearable roulette computer. You'd watch a roulette wheel for a while and input the results; and it would figure out the wheel's bias and tell you how to bet.

Fascinating story. It worked but of course they had some problems ... wearable electronics weren't exactly easy in the 70's, they had to invent everything they used. One team member was burned when a unit shorted out.

Thanks, I think I've heard of the story. I know some guys did it recently with lasers, if you have a fixed point on the table and the ball breaks the laser you can work out its velocity, you then have to take into consideration wind resistance and the bounce.
But as you say each table has a bias, do you think its based on the guy spinning the ball or the actual mechanics of the table that produce the bias?
 

FAQ: Physics of Roulette: Spin, Friction, Wind, Momentum, Bounce

What role does spin play in the physics of roulette?

Spin is a crucial factor in the physics of roulette as it determines the movement and final resting position of the ball. The spin of the roulette wheel creates centrifugal force, causing the ball to stay on the outer edge of the wheel and eventually drop into one of the numbered pockets.

How does friction affect the outcome of a roulette spin?

Friction between the ball and the roulette wheel slows down the ball's movement, influencing its final landing position. The amount of friction depends on the surface of the wheel and the ball, as well as the speed and force of the spin.

Can wind impact the outcome of a roulette game?

Yes, wind can have a significant impact on the physics of roulette. If there is a draft in the casino, it can affect the ball's trajectory and cause it to land in a different pocket than it would have without the wind. Professional roulette tables are typically designed to minimize the effects of wind.

What role does momentum play in the physics of roulette?

Momentum is essential in determining the speed and direction of the ball as it travels around the roulette wheel. The initial force of the spin, combined with the ball's mass and velocity, determines how long it will take for the ball to reach its final position.

How does the bounce of the ball affect the outcome of a roulette spin?

The bounce of the ball can greatly influence the outcome of a roulette game. The ball must make several bounces before coming to a complete stop, and each bounce can change its trajectory. The surface of the roulette wheel, as well as any imperfections or obstacles on the wheel, can affect the ball's bounce and ultimately determine the winning number.

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