Physics Question involving a skier and a snowdrift....

In summary, the question asks for the average force exerted on a skier by a snowdrift as she comes to a stop after hitting it. However, the question is flawed as it does not specify the time taken for the skier to come to a stop, making it impossible to calculate the average force. To get the given answer, the force must be treated as constant.
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Serella_Madole
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Homework Statement

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After crossing the patch of soft snow, the skier hits a snowdrift and penetrates a distance 2.1 m into it before coming to a stop. What is the average force exerted on her by the snowdrift as it stops her?

Homework Equations


TE(initial) = TE(final)

The Attempt at a Solution



TEi = TEf
Kei + Pei = Elastic Energy + Kef (Pei = zero)
1/2mv^2 =1/2kx^2
k = mv^2/x^2
k = 14583.3

F=-kx^2
F=64312.353N

This is not correct; the correct answer is 4210N. Apparently you can use the Work Energy Theorem in order to determine this value. I am not sure how though. Please assist in helping me understand. [/B]
 
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Serella_Madole said:

Homework Statement

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After crossing the patch of soft snow, the skier hits a snowdrift and penetrates a distance 2.1 m into it before coming to a stop. What is the average force exerted on her by the snowdrift as it stops her?

Homework Equations


TE(initial) = TE(final)

The Attempt at a Solution



TEi = TEf
Kei + Pei = Elastic Energy + Kef (Pei = zero)
1/2mv^2 =1/2kx^2
k = mv^2/x^2
k = 14583.3

F=-kx^2
F=64312.353N

This is not correct; the correct answer is 4210N. Apparently you can use the Work Energy Theorem in order to determine this value. I am not sure how though. Please assist in helping me understand. [/B]
Is there more information given with this problem? Like the velocity of the skier before she hits the snowdrift?
 
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SteamKing said:
Is there more information given with this problem? Like the velocity of the skier before she hits the snowdrift?

I had to determine the final velocity on my own which is 17.8 m/s. The initial velocity is zero based on the first part of the question. "A 61.0-kg skier starts from rest at the top of a ski slope of height 70.0 m."
 
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We can't help you if you don't give us all the information at your disposal. :wink:
 
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SteamKing said:
We can't help you if you don't give us all the information at your disposal. :wink:
Sorry for the late response!

Here is all the information accompanying the question!

Part A
If frictional forces do −1.05×104 J of work on her as she descends, how fast is she going at the bottom of the slope?
Take free fall acceleration to be g = 9.80 m/s2.

v = 32.1 m/s

Part B
Now moving horizontally, the skier crosses a patch of soft snow, where the coefficient of friction is 0.25. If the patch is of width 70.0 m and the average force of air resistance on the skier is 160 N , how fast is she going after crossing the patch?

v = 17.8 m/s

I hope this helps!
 
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Serella_Madole said:
1/2mv^2 =1/2kx^2
A snowdrift does not behave like a spring.
Serella_Madole said:
F=-kx^2
Even if it did behave like a spring, that is not the right equation for the force exerted by a spring.

Unfortunately, the question itself is flawed. "Average force" means the average over time. Since you do not know how long the skier took to stop, there is no way to work out the average force. In order to get the book answer, you will have treat the force as constant.
See "3. Average force" at https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/frequently-made-errors-mechanics-forces/
 

Related to Physics Question involving a skier and a snowdrift....

1) How does the weight of the snowdrift affect the skier's acceleration?

The weight of the snowdrift does not directly affect the skier's acceleration. According to Newton's second law of motion, the acceleration of an object is directly proportional to the net force acting on it and inversely proportional to its mass. Therefore, the weight of the snowdrift may indirectly affect the skier's acceleration if it creates a net force on the skier.

2) How does the angle of the slope affect the skier's speed?

The angle of the slope does affect the skier's speed. The steeper the slope, the greater the component of the gravitational force acting parallel to the surface of the slope, which results in a greater acceleration and thus a higher speed for the skier. However, other factors such as air resistance and the skier's technique also play a role in determining their speed.

3) What is the role of friction in the skier's movement?

Friction plays a crucial role in the skier's movement. As the skier moves down the slope, they experience both kinetic friction from the snow and static friction between their skis and the snow. These frictional forces help to slow down the skier's speed and allow them to maintain control of their movement.

4) How does the skier's body position affect their trajectory?

The skier's body position can significantly affect their trajectory. For example, if the skier leans too far forward, their center of mass shifts towards the front, causing them to accelerate and potentially lose control. On the other hand, leaning too far back can also cause instability. The skier's body position should be balanced to maintain control and follow the desired trajectory.

5) How can the skier use their poles to help them navigate through the snowdrift?

The skier can use their poles to help them navigate through the snowdrift by using them for balance and stability. The poles can also be used to propel the skier forward and help them maintain their speed. Additionally, the poles can be used to push through deep snow and create a path for the skier to follow. Proper use of poles can greatly assist the skier in navigating through the snowdrift.

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