Planning Your Undergraduate Physics Courses: Which Maths to Prioritize?

In summary, In order to maximize the usefulness of math courses while in undergraduate school, it may be best to choose courses similar to those used in a more "modern physicsy" field. Taking these courses may not be necessary, but they may be beneficial in the long run if you decide to pursue a career in physics.
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Hey guys, this is my first thread here, and I have a question about courses to take during my undergraduate.

I am currently in Engineering Science at the University of Toronto, in the physics option (so basically eng phys). I am going into my third year and I have a large degree of flexibility now in choosing my courses. I am currently planning on going to graduate school in Physics (or a very closely related field) at a fairly prestigious school if I can. I am unsure of the particular field of physics I want to go into right now, but it is most likely in a more "modern physicsy" field.

Anyways, I have the option of choosing some advanced math courses for third and fourth year such as:
Groups and Symmetries
Real Analysis
Complex Analysis
Polynomials and Fields etc.
PDEs (this is a core course so I'm 100% taking this)
etc.

Basically I have two questions:
1) should I consider taking these advanced math courses over more practical and applied physics/engineering courses?
2) if I do take these courses, which ones would be most useful to learn during my undergrad (rather than having to pick up later)? ie. are there any math courses that are almost a necessity for any sort of physics
*the courses I listed aboved are just examples, you can elaborate on topics I didn't mention

The reason I am asking this question is that I don't want to take all applied courses in my upper years, get into grad school, and all of a sudden be lacking in the mathematical tools. At the same time, I don't want to spend my undergraduate learning advanced math, as that does not really help me decide what I want to do once I go to grad school. A mixture is probably key, but I need to prioritize in this case.

Your help is appreciated.
 
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If you want to go to graduate school in physics why didn't you just get a physics specialist or math & physics specialist degree. Engineering science makes it a lot more difficult.

EDIT: Lol, I didn't even answer your question. PDEs and complex analysis (Groups and symmetries is good for gauge theory) should be good but what is it that you want to study exactly?
 
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If you want to go to graduate school in physics why didn't you just get a physics specialist or math & physics specialist degree. Engineering science makes it a lot more difficult.

Because when I was applying for my undergraduate I had no idea whether I wanted to be an engineer and work in industry or pursue physics or math and work in academia/research. I chose one of the hardest if not the hardest programs I could find in Canada, which also offered me both an engineering degree and the option to take what interested me most. This program has opened a lot of doors for me, and for me at least, is a hundred times better than a physics specialist would have been. I am at the top of my class and in no way concerned about getting into an at least decent graduate school. But this isn't about what decisions I've made in the past, so please stay on topic.

what is it that you want to study exactly?

Not entirely sure right now. I've read books on string theory, quantum gravity, looked a papers on quantum computing etc. etc. Everything looks interesting, but I need to take courses similar to these types of things for me to really know what I like. Hence, the reason I posed the original question. I want to maximize the number of courses I can take which will help me make my decision while at the same time not losing out on the benefits of taking math courses in my undergraduate.

In terms of complex analysis, what is it used a lot in? I talked to a physics professor on the idea of taking complex and he said it really isn't used a whole lot. He said there was really only one important idea (I think it was contour integration but I'm not sure) and that I could teach this myself easily. This may have only really applied to his line of work however, it would be nice to hear other peoples opinions.
 

FAQ: Planning Your Undergraduate Physics Courses: Which Maths to Prioritize?

What math courses are required for an undergraduate physics degree?

The specific math courses required for an undergraduate physics degree may vary slightly depending on the university or program, but typically, students are expected to complete calculus courses (differential and integral), linear algebra, and multivariable calculus. Some programs may also require differential equations and/or advanced calculus courses.

Can I prioritize certain math courses over others?

While there are certain math courses that are typically required for an undergraduate physics degree, it is possible to prioritize certain courses over others. For example, if a student is struggling with a particular math course, they may choose to retake it in a later semester and prioritize other courses in the meantime. However, it is important to keep in mind that all of the required math courses are necessary for a thorough understanding of physics concepts.

How will my math courses help with my physics studies?

Math is a fundamental tool for studying physics, as it provides the necessary language and tools to describe and understand the physical world. Calculus, for example, is essential for understanding concepts such as velocity and acceleration, and linear algebra is crucial for analyzing systems with multiple variables. By prioritizing and excelling in your math courses, you will have a strong foundation for your physics studies.

Are there any other math courses that may be beneficial for a physics student?

In addition to the required math courses, there are other math courses that may be beneficial for a physics student. These courses may include numerical analysis, complex analysis, and partial differential equations. These courses can provide a deeper understanding of mathematical concepts and their applications in physics.

Can I take advanced math courses as electives for my physics degree?

Some undergraduate physics programs may allow students to take advanced math courses as electives. These courses can provide a deeper understanding of mathematical concepts and their applications in physics. However, it is important to consult with an academic advisor to ensure that the selected courses align with your degree requirements and academic goals.

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